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DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#53426: Mar 2nd 2017 at 6:03:09 PM

I just learned that Toriyama based Freeza on the real estate speculators that caused Japan's Lost Decade. That would explain why he is in the business of selling planets.

edited 2nd Mar '17 6:05:14 PM by DS9guy

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53427: Mar 2nd 2017 at 6:03:39 PM

Well, that and the Xenomorph.

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#53429: Mar 2nd 2017 at 6:07:31 PM

Ya know think King Cold is in his second form.

I wonder if he has any transformations.

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#53430: Mar 2nd 2017 at 6:08:56 PM

Maybe that's just his natural form and Frieza based his own second form after King Cold.

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#53431: Mar 2nd 2017 at 7:49:23 PM

Vados sounds.... sexy in english.

Champa sounds like I imagined XD But his angry voice needs some work.

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#53432: Mar 2nd 2017 at 7:59:05 PM

Champa's voice should probably be a bit higher pitched and a little more gravelly.

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#53433: Mar 2nd 2017 at 8:01:12 PM

Do we know who voices who for the U6 guys? Vados sounds vaguely familiar (and amazing) and Champa sounds really familiar.

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#53434: Mar 2nd 2017 at 8:06:12 PM

Heh, I have always fund Vados very attractive, makes me excited for her sister. The pig-tailed servant of Vermoud.

The voices are interesting as I wonder if this is how there all gonna sound exactly for their eventual appearance on Super's dub.

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#53435: Mar 2nd 2017 at 8:08:25 PM

Vados is Caitlin Glass and Champa is Jason Liebrecht.

This song needs more love.
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#53436: Mar 2nd 2017 at 9:07:44 PM

Hit's just like, "How much of my power should I use?"

Hit continues to be the Badass Of Another Story.

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#53437: Mar 2nd 2017 at 9:46:26 PM

Just for fun, I counted the times a main villain had a heel turn whenever Goku felt like sparing them. See if I can find any pattern

  • Piccolo Junior arc: Piccolo Jr had a Heel–Face Turn in the Saiyan saga. Though keeping him alive was more for Kami's sake
  • Saiyan arc: Vegeta had a Heel–Face Turn in...well, he was nominally a good guy during the Frieza arc because of Frieza but Toriyama did give him an Alas, Poor Villain moment so even then he wasn't totally evil. Vegeta was neutral aligned up until the end of the Buu saga, he's more or less Good Is Not Nice these days
  • Frieza arc: Apparently Toriyama decided the Heel–Face Turn was undone. He's the first villain to outright deny a chance of redemption, point blank. I guess it goes down to the fact Frieza is based off things Toriyama hates and wanted to make a potential heel turn for Vegeta more plausible
  • Cell arc: Because for once Executive Meddling wasn't a bad idea, there wasn't a consistent Big Bad. Goku didn't spare Dr Gero/20 because 17 got him before any potential, while 17 and 18 were barely villains. As for Cell, he's kind of like Frieza. However instead of denying redemption even when in a corner, he doesn't seem to even fathom the idea of stopping being Frankensteins' psychopath
  • Buu arc: This gets really complicated. Majin Buu in his original form has a heel-turn. Majin Buu in his final, pure form doesn't but he does get to be reincarnated as a good person. Not sure if that would work with Frieza and Cell or if they're going to be stuck in that cocoon forever
  • Beerus arc: Beerus isn't really a villain
  • F arc: The whole point of that movie was to establish that Frieza is both a threat and irredeemable
  • Champa arc: Champa isn't really an antagonist, just beginning a challenge
  • Future Trunks arc: So far the only arc where Goku causes a villain's Start of Darkness and Face–Heel Turn, though to be fair he didn't expect Zamasu/Black to be so petty. Actually, the Zamasu are really unique in that they're the only villains who turned evil

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#53438: Mar 2nd 2017 at 9:48:30 PM

You got heel and face turn mixed up. A heel turn is when you become a bad guy. A face turn is when you become a good guy.

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#53439: Mar 2nd 2017 at 9:53:20 PM

[up]No, they seem to have done it correctly. Piccolo and Vegeta underwent a Heel–Face Turn, while Zamasu did a Face–Heel Turn.

Unless you were talking about their first non-trope usage of the term, which just seems nitpicky.

edited 2nd Mar '17 9:55:05 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#53440: Mar 2nd 2017 at 10:04:32 PM

Champa's voice should probably be a bit higher pitched and a little more gravelly.

You want him to sound like Eddy?

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#53441: Mar 2nd 2017 at 10:07:48 PM

Didn't Raditz also reject his chance at redemption?

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#53442: Mar 2nd 2017 at 10:12:53 PM

[up][up]...................maybe.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#53443: Mar 2nd 2017 at 11:13:19 PM

That would be a better voice, so yes.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53444: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:30:03 AM

Beerus is totally a villain in his initial appearance, he just turned out to be more complex than the usual adversary and falls into neutral after the plot is done. He kind of reminds me of Xanatos, in the sense that when the plot stops focusing on him being a jerk, he sincerely packs it up and stops being a threat.

I like how in Super there's even a slow trend of him becoming less bratty and more responsible when it comes to his job over the course of the series.

edited 3rd Mar '17 12:35:59 AM by KnownUnknown

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#53445: Mar 3rd 2017 at 2:57:20 AM

At least Beerus and Shin are not Sidra and Roh.

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#53446: Mar 3rd 2017 at 4:57:16 AM

In the movie, Beerus is not a villain, he's an antagonist. He's not a hero, yeah, but he would have just toddled right back home after enjoying himself at Bulma's party if Boo hadn't been an ass. Yeah, Beerus overreacted but he's a cat, what do you expect?

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#53447: Mar 3rd 2017 at 5:05:47 AM

I'd expect a hairless cat to runaway from a pink bubble gum monster...

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#53449: Mar 3rd 2017 at 5:57:25 AM

Oops. Misread that.

edited 3rd Mar '17 5:57:43 AM by Hobgoblin

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