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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#52653: Feb 21st 2017 at 4:58:26 PM

Took a wrong turn, mang.

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#52655: Feb 22nd 2017 at 4:19:52 AM

[up].......ah dun geet eet

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#52656: Feb 22nd 2017 at 7:16:16 AM

Adrian Barba full version of the ending. I'm digging it. Of course, is in lat-spanish, but hey, is the classic singer, so i'll take it.

Seriously, what does the lyrics actually mean?

edited 22nd Feb '17 7:24:04 AM by Tomodachi

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#52657: Feb 22nd 2017 at 10:00:37 AM

New video from Masakox and Geekdom 101 about a very important topic:

Considering some of my own thoughts about women in Dragonball, I can kinda see some of their points. Launch for instance, likely was just this would be funny, I'mma do that thing as opposed to blatantly sexist. Bulma did get the entire ball rolling, 18 never stops being awesome etc.

It's still ridiculous that it took so long to get a female Super Saiyan (but Toriyama probably just didn't think of it), and when I really think back on my own arguments, my bigger issue is the rarity of there rarely being more than one female fighter in the same league as the guys at one time. By the time a new one shows up, the old one has been surpassed, and then she promptly gets surpassed by all the other characters later.

Video is the exception, due to being far bellow most everyone else except for her own father and maybe Chi-Chi by the time she appears.

The Tournament will be good for getting a bunch of female fighters all at once (though beyond the Fat Lady that Vegeta is fighting in the opening and Legendary Saiya-Woman, we haven't seen many).

So, what do you guys think?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#52658: Feb 22nd 2017 at 10:04:36 AM

I think that we can start throwing accusations of sexism at Super when the female God of Destruction turns out to be superweak by comparison to the others.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#52659: Feb 22nd 2017 at 10:19:51 AM

Vados is equal or higher than Whis, so yeah...

Also, remember, sexism permeates society and it being present in a work is not a sign of malice, but a matter of education.

edited 22nd Feb '17 10:20:42 AM by Eriorguez

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#52660: Feb 22nd 2017 at 10:19:59 AM

That is, if she is.

Hell, the women have (with the exception of 18 when she first appeared) been weaker than men, but due to the usual circumstances (damn near everyone being weaker than Goku).

There's also another point it makes about none of the later females being overly sexualized (there's been some jokes about that, but it's not anywhere near as pervasive as some anime I think). At worst, we get Roshi being...well Roshi. Still not good, but it's not something that's heavily focused on.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#52661: Feb 22nd 2017 at 10:39:05 AM

... None of the women in Dragon Ball really strike me as sexualized. I suppose there was that scene of a deer trying to breastfeed off of Pan but I really have no idea what that was about.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#52662: Feb 22nd 2017 at 10:43:25 AM

That was just tacky considering Pan is 9 years old.

Who knows what they were thinking.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#52663: Feb 22nd 2017 at 10:59:13 AM

Masako X: ...going for a more "relaxed" approach

  • 34 minute video
  • starts discussion on sexism in a popular anime

Heh.

edited 22nd Feb '17 11:00:27 AM by Soble

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#52664: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:06:34 AM

Would she even have breasts to feed off of? That scene made the least sense out of any in GT, and there are tons of senseless scenes to start with.

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#52665: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:07:06 AM

Meh, theres a shitton of anime that have all female cast and no one complains about sexism there.

Anyone who thinks that writing is about ticking off inclusivnes boxes obviously has no idea what they are talking about.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#52666: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:10:12 AM

I think pretty much the only 'sexualized' characters in Dragon Ball were that chick who used her body to distract her opponents (who got beaten by Nam) and Blue Haired Marron, who was pretty much just there for that reason.

Yeah, Bulma did walk around in just about nothing every once in a while, but I don't think it was actively played up for sexy.

18 is frequently the target of sexualization and objectifying, but in the series itself, she's actually never subjected to such treatment. I don't think she ever wears anything that could be described as even remotely skimpy.

Dragon Ball doesn't really do much in the way of Fanservice, really.

[up]The funny thing is that when people do write like that, these works tend to flop because, as it turns out, the people whining about sexism and gender issues and racism and the like on the internet are not the people who consume the media they're bitching about.

edited 22nd Feb '17 11:12:43 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#52667: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:17:02 AM

18 is frequently the target of sexualization and objectifying

I wouldn't even say frequently. Her clothes get damaged, true, but... so does everyone else's. Cell's blatantly rapey attitude towards her was a TFS addition... at least I'm pretty sure it was.

Then she's dead for awhile. Then she marries Krillin. Roshi groping her was... sigh... part of Toei's filler.

So unless something happened to her recently in Super's filler, I don't know where else she's been objectified.

Now the fanbase drawing pictures of her... that's not really fair to blame on the franchise.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#52668: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:18:41 AM

They did make an official figurine of 18 where her assests where.... ahem greatly, heavily expanded upon if you know what I mean.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#52669: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:20:51 AM

@Soble

To quote myself:

18 is frequently the target of sexualization and objectifying, but in the series itself, she's actually never subjected to such treatment.

IE, I was talking about the fandom sexualizing and objectifying her when the series doesn't really do that.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#52670: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:21:58 AM

[up] (2)

Oh.

[up]

And again, oh.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#52671: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:24:37 AM

[up] It was a weird one.

They gave her huge knockers, a bubble butt & I think her spine was bending weirdly cause she was doing a leaning in pose so she could show off her humungous chest balloons.

Seriously man, weird as fuck.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#52672: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:33:38 AM

So I just googled that.

Pfftt...

The hell Japan? I know sex sells but...pffftthahhahaha. Jeez. I'm pretty sure Gero had enough decency not to install those and he was literally a creepy old man who lived in a cave and abducted teenagers for his experiments.

But seriously, that's messed up.

edited 22nd Feb '17 11:36:20 AM by Soble

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#52673: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:38:41 AM

I'm pretty sure Gero didn't modify her physical appearance.

Besides, we know which of Gero's robots was the fetish one.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#52674: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:43:39 AM

[up][up] Ah, the good old Centaur Stance. Never gets old.

[up] Imperfect Cell, obviously.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#52675: Feb 22nd 2017 at 11:46:39 AM

I always thought it was 19.

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