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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#51851: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:29:37 PM

I agree that it was very weird that no one was concerned for the other universes. Like, there wasn't even a passing thought. It's just "Oh, I'll win for sure."

What about the literal billions of innocent people you kill with each victory?

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#51852: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:30:27 PM

OK, finally caught the episode. Can confirm that nowhere at all did Goku mention anything about Future Trunks's timeline at all. Kinda peeved it ended right when the fight with Buu and Basil was about to begin, but that just means next week is gonna be the fight proper, and that makes me excited.

Also, I'm guessing since one of the Universe 9 fighters is named Basil, that'll mean the other fighters will be named after spices too.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#51853: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:31:53 PM

[up]×8

See, that name works.

[up] I did love the bit with Buu smiling, so you know it's going to get real in the next episode.

edited 12th Feb '17 1:33:07 PM by Cortez

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#51854: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:35:45 PM

[up][up]Wasn't that confirmed already? I think one of them is named Bergamo.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#51855: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:36:24 PM

I honestly don't know, I haven't caught up with all of the news about it.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51856: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:42:34 PM

Like I said before but Basil is very lucky he's only fighting Fatso cause while Fatso will beat him down, if this was Super or Kid Buu then those two would fuck him up.

Buu was a fucking monster.

edited 12th Feb '17 1:42:54 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#51857: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:44:06 PM

Basil, Bergamo, and Lavenda are the names of the Universe 9 fighters.

This song needs more love.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#51858: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:46:14 PM

Gonna go ahead and link Masako X's review of the episode.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#51859: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:55:26 PM

I watched that already.

You know, you'd think after all the times Goku has been told to be more respectful, he'd ...learn to be respectful.

I mean, people have been bitching him out about this shit for years. Since we've determined he's not dumb and can take a hint, it's really annoying how it doesn't sink in. It's clear he's just deliberately ignoring what others say (which is why they are even in this mess).

One Strip! One Strip!
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#51860: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:56:10 PM

Remember Tails? This is him now. Feel old yet?

wild mass guess Ganesha and Gowasu are Godtube Best Buddies wild mass guess

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#51861: Feb 12th 2017 at 1:58:05 PM

Goku's stubborn above all things. That's what makes him such an effective Determinator, but it's also his main character flaw in that he'll never think of improving himself as a person rather than a fighter, because he sees no need to ever think he might be in the wrong.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51862: Feb 12th 2017 at 2:02:17 PM

He can't take the simple idea of acting somewhat more respectfully?

I mean Vegeta the guy an ego the size of a planet knows when to kowtow when needed.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#51863: Feb 12th 2017 at 2:08:21 PM

Again, I think it's mostly a thing of never having to face any lasting consequences.

For Goku himself, things always end up working one way or another, and it's hard to faze and distress him in the first place. Why would he feel moved to change when he can go through life just fine being the way he is?

Vegeta pretty much losts his dreams of megalomanical superiority and had to find himself a new idea of happiness and contentment with himself, but Goku's never really lost his way in what concerns to his raison d'etre.

edited 12th Feb '17 2:09:47 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#51864: Feb 12th 2017 at 2:27:27 PM

Pretty much.

For as long as he could remember, Goku has always been able to just either literally wish away any problems, or physically beat it up. Every time he's been in a bad spot, something has often happened to save him.

The biggest mistake he's made was sending Gohan out to fight (well, really, misjudging what kind of person Gohan was), and even then, he was right about what would happen, even if it was a close call.

There was also sending Goten and Trunks out to fight, and not saving them when Buu blew up the planet, but even that was solved with Dragonballs.

How do you make someone understand the consequences of his actions when his actions rarely backfire in a way that can't be completely undone?

One Strip! One Strip!
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#51865: Feb 12th 2017 at 2:35:13 PM

Yeah, I'm gonna go on a limb and say he's gonna punch his way out of this situation too.

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#51866: Feb 12th 2017 at 2:40:21 PM

[up][up], [up]x3 Which is why I thought that after all the universes are inevitable recreated with the Super Dragon Balls, many of the fighters from the other Universes with see Goku as a completely deranged idiot, and outright refuse to be friends with Goku, declaring him an enemy of their race at worst. This would lead to more than a couple of civilizations across the other Universes to slap Goku a "kill on sight" order even if he's just passing through for some reason, him getting slandered and ostracized ruthlessly by these inhabitants, and possibly leading to the logical conclusion of a full on invasion of Earth just to kill Goku.

Not only this, but Beerus could also suffer flack from the other Gods of Destruction for not reigning in Goku in first place, with the possibility of the Gods becoming actually bold enough to demand that Zen'o possibly replace Beerus.

Plus, there is also the fact that we do not know whether or not the Grand Priest told anyone else besides, Beerus, Whis, Goku, and the U7 Supreme Kais of the win and lose conditions of the tourny. For all the other Gods of Destruction, Supreme Kais, and their fighters would know, this is probably just a fun get-together with no consequences, and the only threat of erasure is immediate if the Zen'Os are bored.

edited 12th Feb '17 2:41:20 PM by UdtheImp

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#51867: Feb 12th 2017 at 2:50:34 PM

So you want the universe to go Shinji in 3.0 on him?

...Not sure how to feel about that really.

edited 12th Feb '17 2:50:44 PM by HandsomeRob

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#51868: Feb 12th 2017 at 3:11:33 PM

Or, more likely, there are some tough calls but everything works out in one way or another, because that's how things tend to go for Goku.

edited 12th Feb '17 3:12:07 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#51869: Feb 12th 2017 at 3:13:59 PM

[up]

And then he does it all again as soon as it suits him to do so.

Honestly, even if I think the idea does go too far, I'm rather sick of Goku not grasping what he happens when he fucks up.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51870: Feb 12th 2017 at 3:16:37 PM

Didn't he kinda had a hand in the complete obliteration of Future Trunks' timeline by forgetting the sealing stuff?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#51871: Feb 12th 2017 at 3:22:34 PM

And we saw how much he learned from that.

That being said, I'm waiting to see how the anime handles it.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#51872: Feb 12th 2017 at 3:50:39 PM

Well, we could see him take responsibility and want to win the Super Dragon Balls to help the other universes.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#51873: Feb 12th 2017 at 4:12:03 PM

I say, take his arms and legs.

And I like Goku.

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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#51874: Feb 12th 2017 at 4:28:57 PM

I don't think Dragon Ball is a series where resentment would lead to other universes would invade Earth with armies just to kill Goku... They would send their most powerful warriors, not their armies tongue

On a side note, which spice is Bergamo supposed to be a pun for? I get Basil and Lavenda, but not that one.

(Also, I'm wondering if in the tournament proper they'll have a sister called Maryrose)

Kosjurake The Wildest of Ronins from Tokyo LOCCENT Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
The Wildest of Ronins
#51875: Feb 12th 2017 at 4:30:56 PM

You know I want to defend Goku like I was doing last week, in that this is really Zeno responsible for it. But his nonchalance about just going "Ok I have to win to save my universe" and not even giving a second thought to the 11 other fucking universes that are going to be erased because of this pisses me off. God I know he's not really a good person, but for fucks sakes Goku.

Also the super dragonball option probably won't work, because I can see Zeno just redestorying all the universes and this time doing the same to universe 7 for daring to go against him.

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