I know I'll get some heat for saying this, but how come the fandom has hypocritical expectatins for characters? I mean, I noticed that fans usually ignore Bulma's bad behavior (I dont hate Bulma though), and then ignore Chi-Chi's good behavior. Fans usually bash Goku for doing things Vegeta does, but when Vegeta does something, it's ignored.
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I think people don't bash Vegeta for being so shitty because he killed millions of people in his younger days (I'm assuming DB Earth is particularly heavily populated by DBU standards, as was implied). Calling him, say, a bad father or a jerk will just get a "duh".
Lunch is a one-note gag character that was never funny and who Toriyama didn't even include in a cameo under the impression that no one would remember her.
edited 18th Feb '14 7:02:13 PM by sockpuppet1
I liked when Launch went to shoot Crane Hermit in anime and he caught all her bullets easily. Least I think that's filler.
She was cute and Toriyama is dumb for not realizing how popular she was. But ya know, the guy has made several questionable character calls so we shouldn't be surprised.
edited 18th Feb '14 7:17:20 PM by Nikkolas
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Well, I kind of agree with you, because mothers like that are realistic, just like how in the My Little Pony fandom, people hate the bully characters (Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon), but love the evil villains who aren't realistic (Discord, Sombra, Chrysalis, Nightmare Moon).
But simply liking a villain character more than a realistic jerk character isn't a hypocritical double standard. Saying that jerk characters are worse than villain characters, and portraying villain characters as saints, however, is.
edited 18th Feb '14 7:25:42 PM by MsCC93
Yeah. I think that not having a real long term goal (Immortality, and killing Frieza to avenge his whole race) messed him up. It's like I said before, without something to keep his ego in check and make him focus, he got real dumb real quick.
That being said, Buu series Vegeta show us that no matter his flaws, Vegeta pulls his own strings so to speak.
One Strip! One Strip!
Edit: Agreed.
Um.......
For shits and giggles, good Launch vs Marron (krillin's Girlfriend in the Garlic Junior Filler).
We assume that for some reason, there's nothing to make Launch sneeze.
edited 18th Feb '14 7:45:23 PM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!Negative review for Battle of Z
... surprising few.
I was hyped for it until I noticed that the gameplay resembled a slower, less rap-infused version of Anarchy Reigns.
No. How strong Godku is depends entirely on how you interpret certain lines. We do know, according to Toriyama, that Beers is far stronger than Gohan-Buu at least, buuuuut Beers could've one-shotted Goku whenever he wanted, so that doesn't even mean Godku is stronger than Buuhan. Toriyama actually gave the three heavy hitters of BOG numerical rankings in relation to each other
Whis- 15
Beers- 10
—70% (vs Godku)- 7
Godku- 6
I guess for Toriyama to say that Beers is way stronger than "all of the previous enemies", Buuhan would be at most a 7 by this scale, but more likely a 6 or lower. No one knows how they compare to Super Vegetto, but it's sorta implied in the movie that Godku is a lot stronger than any version of Vegetto. Kinda.
edited 18th Feb '14 11:07:28 PM by sockpuppet1
Superman being able to take Goku depends on what versions of the character you're using. For example, I doubt the version of Superman whose most impressive feat is barley surviving a distant Supernova explosion (he was knocked out) can take EU Goku, a massively FTL casual star+ buster who caused several ki explosions on par with Supernovas in DBO's backstory by Toriyama. The Superman who can create a universe, hold a black hole, or sneeze away a solar system, on the other hand...
Anyway, no, there's nothing about SSG being 20 million times stronger than SS-3 or anything. I think the most impressive 'feat' power wise is Whis stating that if Beers gets angry, the entire solar system will be destroyed in an instant. Even Cell was stated in the manga, anime, and guidebooks to be capable of destroying the solar system, but he was likely just planning on blowing up the sun with his biggest blast, which isn't quite the same thing as the entire solar system (mostly empty space anyway) and everything in it just up and exploding on a whim.
I'm not sure if that's more or less impressive than Buuhan being a casual star+ buster with normal ki blasts and, in the anime, being able to use his ki to tear down dimensional walls and cause the universe to collapse and crush itself. The latter seems more like a special ability that just requires a certain level of power rather than a true expression of strength. Also the DBU is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay smaller than, say, our universe.
edited 19th Feb '14 1:48:21 AM by sockpuppet1
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I do think Bardock was a good character for that noble deed he attempted, even though he isn't exactly a saint since he did slaughter a lot of people. As for Vegeta being a "heartless psychopath," while I don't think he's a bad character (I actually consider him to be one of the best), wasn't there an Even Evil Has Standards moment involving him and Nappa because of it?
I like Frieza and Buu Arc Vegeta the best in my opinion.
Sorry for ignoring you. I was too tired to reply. While Bulma gets bashed, it's definitely not as much as Goku and Chi-chi do. While I understand why some fans may not like Goku and Chichi, I find it annoying how fans ignore their good qualities and make them look worse than usual.

Alternate Plan.
He calls up Goku, and tell him: Hey, distract this guy while I devil beam them!
Done and done.
....Of course, Goku would likely consider such a method dishonourable, but still, it's something.
One Strip! One Strip!