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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#50051: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:12:36 PM

Me actually.

Or at least I started it again.

One word:

Yamcha.tongue

That's all I'm gonna say.

Phew. So I'm hoping we'll finally get the beginning of the Universe Survival arc after this next ep with Krillin. I'm looking forward to it. A tournament is a good way to let other characters strut their stuff.

One Strip! One Strip!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#50052: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:13:21 PM

Mai an exceptional beast...

An exception to many examples...but it counts still.

Even though, people may want to call out how she survived the god power.

edited 21st Jan '17 1:14:49 PM by randomness4

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#50053: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:18:11 PM

Bulma pulled her weight in the last arc pretty well too.

This song needs more love.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#50054: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:21:19 PM

Well yeah.

Like I said, Bulma and Satan seem to be the two most important humans (with Bulma still being a main character to some extent).

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#50055: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:21:47 PM

Humans were irrelevant in Dragon Ball since Piccolo Daimao saga, so blaming that on Freeza is silly.

He does makes some good points tho. Yeah, the power up in Freeza saga were arbitrary and absurdly big, and there was no need to make Freeza thousand times stronger than Captain Ginyu, it doesn't actually adds anything to the story.

And yeah, everything he said about Resurrection of F is spot on, the whole thing was stupid.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#50056: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:21:49 PM

Blooma's a "main character" (technically), it's only natural she should do something.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#50057: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:22:51 PM

The Dragon Ball fanbase seems to be worse than most in saying that every character who isn't the strongest fighter in the cast is useless. Hell, sometimes, even when a character IS the strongest, they don't care so long as that character isn't the one who kills the bad guy.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#50058: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:24:42 PM

So, does that mean they think Beers and Whis are useless.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#50059: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:27:37 PM

On the note of those two, it really annoys me when people say Beerus and Whis being around ruins all tension cause they can just solve most problems.

That's not in their character to do stuff like help.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#50060: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:29:57 PM

[up][up][up]Sometimes they hold two contradiction positions at once, like they'll say "it doesn't matter x isn't the strongest, strength is not all that matter for a good character." then turn around and whine "why isn't x the strongest?! He's my favorite, Toriyama is clearly snubbing him!".

Baffling, truly baffling.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#50061: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:30:08 PM

People in general seem to have a problem not understanding that not killing the Big Bad =/= useless.

Even just stalling for time is useful if it keeps something catostrophic from happening.

edited 21st Jan '17 1:34:22 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#50062: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:31:30 PM

I've seen people claim that, and I wish I was kidding.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#50063: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:34:57 PM

Let it never be said that Shonen fans are the smartest people on the internet; I'm thoroughly convinced most of them are pre-teen boys who don't understand due to ignorance.

Or adults are that fucking dumb.

Not that it's hard given that Dragon Ball is a pretty firm believer in My Kung-Fu Is Stronger Than Yours; as much as people like to argue against it, there is some prevalence of "The strongest power level wins" throughout the series.

edited 21st Jan '17 1:37:46 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#50064: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:39:57 PM

Dood, most of them ARE preteen boys. Shonen is a target audience, meaning, young boys, so, yeah, the target audience for Dragon Ball is pretty much preteen/teen-Gohan-aged boys.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#50065: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:41:16 PM

Except the series came out back in the 80s-90s; any fans who grew up with it would be in their 20s at the earliest.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#50066: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:43:45 PM

[up] Yea, this is what I was referring to; most of those pre-teen aged boys are likely in their twenties by now (Like most of us posting in this very topic :V) and grew up on the Power Level wank. Some grew out of it and learned to appreciate the series beyond that....others.....didn't and those are the remnants.

You probably have a few new generation of Dragon Ball fans who participate in these discussions, but it feels like it's mostly dominated by the ones who grew up on the franchise.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#50067: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:43:56 PM

Because Dragon Ball totally never got reruns and its fanbase is totally composed of twenty-thirty something nerds and nothing else. For sure.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#50068: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:44:49 PM

Doesn't that describe at least 80% of the people in this thread though?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#50070: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:46:54 PM

I don't see what point you're trying to have.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#50071: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:51:10 PM

I'm mostly just making fun of myself because I've done that.

That being said, I've mostly said that the Power Levels never should have grown as big as they did.

edited 21st Jan '17 1:51:28 PM by HandsomeRob

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#50072: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:03:19 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] Dude, this entire thread is literally primarily populated by people who grew up on Dragon Ball as children and this is only a small part of the Internet. I'm not saying there isn't a new generation of Dragon Ball fans, but it's not like a significant portion of those who grew up on the franchise just left it after they got older.

Hell, one of the most popular parodys of the series are made by those very people :V Dragon Ball has a significant Periphery Demographic as a result.

edited 21st Jan '17 2:03:50 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#50073: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:11:43 PM

Yes, I know that said demographic exists, however, don't assume that the majority of the fanbase is adult men who grew up with it, especially when the series has, in recent years, gotten a massive revival.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#50074: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:26:41 PM

Look at every person who complains about the humans not being useful. There are several in this thread.

I have only ever praised Tien for being the most badass human.

Gohan is the one I complain about.

edited 21st Jan '17 2:26:55 PM by Soble

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#50075: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:29:01 PM

[up][up] But the majority of the fanbase are fans who grew up with it lol. Like, why is this even an argument? What, you don't agree that there aren't a lot of adult fans for the series?

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