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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#49726: Jan 15th 2017 at 11:19:42 AM

That's because it's the old people in control of things that have those thoughts and ideas, not the audiences they sell to.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#49727: Jan 15th 2017 at 11:25:18 AM

Yea, the creators of Other M seemed genuinely shocked at how panned their portrayal of Samus was considering how enthusiastic they seemed about it.

It would explain quite a lot of things about the industry if the more traditionalist older generation are still in charge of how things are said and done.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#49728: Jan 15th 2017 at 11:30:33 AM

Problem is, that tends to be a legitimate and big problem in a lot of industries. Old people who have no idea what they're doing or even worse, their young heirs who have even less idea of what they're doing have way too much power.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#49729: Jan 15th 2017 at 11:40:50 AM

I really don't think we should blame the culture for Toriyama's writing mistakes. The reasons or influences behind the writing issues don't matter as far as the work is concerned, the problem is that the issues are there.

This song needs more love.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#49730: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:19:57 PM

The issues are there because of the culture though; it's kind of hard to address one without addressing the other.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#49731: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:24:28 PM

"It's Son Goku's mediocre son!"

Krillin, pass the Senzu. [lol]

...

Man, I'm glad this mini-arc is over. It was the most boring the Super has been yet.

And yeah, Videl portrayal leaves much to be desired. She's almost unrecognizable from her Buu saga self.

Then again, it's not like Gohan fared that much better...

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#49732: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:32:23 PM

Gohan might be on the verge of fixing that though.

Lets hope the tournament gives him some glory.

One Strip! One Strip!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49733: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:32:29 PM

I mean, Gohan is still Gohan. Whether you're annoyed that he apparently still slacks on training or whatever, it's still totally in character for him to do so. And him being a scholar has been his thing for awhile, it's nothing new.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#49734: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:38:21 PM

[up]×3

I highly disagree, the last two episodes were really good and it was great to see how strong the bond between Videl and Gohan is.

edited 15th Jan '17 12:48:48 PM by Cortez

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#49735: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:41:33 PM

Wasn't the whole Great Saiyawoman thing anime filler anyway?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#49736: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:42:22 PM

[up][up][up][up]Probably not tho, because Krilin will steal his spotlight. tongue

[up][up]Pfft, nope.

edited 15th Jan '17 12:42:55 PM by Shlugo_the_great

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49737: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:44:03 PM

There really is "you're wrong or right" about things like this. Just what you prefer.

I've noticed that Cortez seems to get really invested/defensive of parental/family things. That's fine if you love stuff like that, but it doesn't invalidate any problems people may have with it for other reasons.

edited 15th Jan '17 12:45:03 PM by LSBK

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#49738: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:48:14 PM

[up]×2

Pfft, yeah. You are the only one complaining so far, most people seem to think the last two episodes were rather sweet.

[up]×3

Pretty much, yeah. Saiyawoman/Saiyaman 2 only showed up in the films or filler.

edited 15th Jan '17 12:50:05 PM by Cortez

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#49739: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:51:15 PM

I've seen praise for the Great Saiyan Man stuff from guys who already liked it on other sites. It's really up to the individual.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#49740: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:55:18 PM

Remember, the tournament is Toriyama stuff, while everything since Trunks left has been Toei for the most part.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#49741: Jan 15th 2017 at 12:58:31 PM

Indeed.

He's the one who will decide how things will go at the tournament.

With so many competitors, I'm hoping he makes the best use of everyone.

One Strip! One Strip!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#49742: Jan 15th 2017 at 1:05:17 PM

Can we not argue which of our tastes our superior, thank you.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#49743: Jan 15th 2017 at 1:08:45 PM

Sigh, fine. It'd be a waste of time anyway.

In other news, next episode is about Krillin. And that's great, because Krillin is a bro.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#49744: Jan 15th 2017 at 1:11:25 PM

Anyway, I guess I should watch these episodes now.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#49745: Jan 15th 2017 at 1:21:25 PM

Both of 'em?

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#49746: Jan 15th 2017 at 1:21:50 PM

Random thought but is this the first time we've seen Krillin in his gi with hair?

This song needs more love.
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#49748: Jan 15th 2017 at 1:26:34 PM

That filler was a blast. Can't believe I almost skipped this one.

     
  • "Son Goku's kind of mediocre son!"
  • "Yeah, he does look kind of mediocre!" ... [lol][lol]
    • Kaioken, Vegetto, the return of Potara fusion, Super Pan, Pilaf gang, Trunks meeting Trunks, 18 pitching in against Beerus, Yamcha's death pose winning the baseball game - Toei's good at reading the room.
  • Even moreso with that heart-to-heart Gohan had with Cocoa.
    • And let's examine that: Gohan admits that he can't do everything despite his amazing abilities - this is exactly in line with criticism of Gohan's fighting ability. He gets over this and cheers Cocoa on. Barry comes in trying to ruin his relationship with Videl but she doesn't have any of it. Barry comes back and turns into a giant, dark, red-eyed ape monster not unlike Gohan did against Vegeta. Barry is now fueled by malice and violence, he's stronger and he just keeps getting stronger, he feels invincible, he's not afraid of Gohan or anyone - isn't that somewhat similar to the image we who complain about Gohan turning into a pedestrian have of Gohan himself? This powerful, confident, violent creature?
  • Let me get this straight. Jaco can't fire the Macrocosm Cannon because it will kill Barry. But "Super Great Saiyaman Beam" is fine to Gohan because he "held back?" Anything Jaco could produce would likely be weaker than what Gohan could fire. And far as I saw Gohan's beam pretty much blasted him head-on.
  • Alright, fine, Super Great Saiyaman is great (and Heroes will probably use it soon). But Gohan seriously thought to name his attack after it moments after the director came up with the name?
  • That shot of Gohan, Videl, and Pan might be the coolest, heroic-looking shot I've seen in Dragonball since Vegeta exploded.
  • Wasn't there a part earlier in Super where Gohan lamented at how Goten didn't think the Great Saiyaman was cool anymore? So why is he so excited by the movie now?
  • I wish we could have actually seen the movie. I mean, how much editing was needed to get Mr. Satan into the final act.
  • Chi Chi's reaction is priceless. And Goku looks so bored. [lol] These little character moments are worth the filler.
  • Funny that Gohan would adopt a superhero person and battle an actor-turned-monster named Barry.

edited 15th Jan '17 3:04:39 PM by Soble

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#49749: Jan 15th 2017 at 1:26:43 PM

He was in his Gi with hair shortly before 18 shaved it off in RoF...

edited 15th Jan '17 1:27:05 PM by randomness4

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#49750: Jan 15th 2017 at 1:27:51 PM

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