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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4901: Feb 11th 2014 at 4:28:35 PM

You mean read, right?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4902: Feb 11th 2014 at 4:41:05 PM

Well, either. At that stage I hadn't read anything of the manga except the pre-Raditz stuff.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4903: Feb 11th 2014 at 4:53:12 PM

I'm confused. I was under the impression you read the manga but didn't watch the anime.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4904: Feb 11th 2014 at 5:01:38 PM

I used to watch the "Z" anime, but I don't any more.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#4905: Feb 11th 2014 at 5:05:41 PM

@ Soble

Vegeta is the most developed, and awesome, character in all of Z

I wouldn't quite say that, not that I'm advocating Vegeta hate or wank here. Maybe rivaling Piccolo and Gohan.

Huh. Come to think of it, none of the (important) human characters really develop do they, but I guess that's because Yamcha, Tien, and Krillin were present in Dragonball, and most of their development occurs there.

edited 11th Feb '14 5:06:19 PM by FOFD

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4906: Feb 11th 2014 at 5:06:39 PM

Ah, I see.

I'm guessing you've watched the movies, though, since there aren't any manga equivalents to them.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4907: Feb 11th 2014 at 5:09:20 PM

[up][up] They didn't develop much there either, because it was pretty much just instantaneous Heel–Face Turn for them.

[up] Yeah, I've seen all the movies. Own a couple of them as well.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4908: Feb 11th 2014 at 5:17:04 PM

...Have you watched all of GT?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4909: Feb 11th 2014 at 5:20:17 PM

Yes, and what's more, I marathoned it. Terrible, terrible idea.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#4910: Feb 11th 2014 at 5:45:09 PM

[up] I used to watch the Japanese dub of that when it was on the air as a kid.

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ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#4911: Feb 11th 2014 at 6:13:09 PM

I will admit, the japanese theme song for GT was awesome. I was really disappointed when I heard it for the first time after only knowing about the Grand Tour rap. It should have just been resung with an English translation like the original Dragon Ball theme was.

edited 11th Feb '14 6:13:17 PM by ScorpioRat

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4912: Feb 11th 2014 at 6:20:45 PM

I can't do Japanese Z. Goku's voice... it's just so unfitting and Vegeta sounds like an old man.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4913: Feb 11th 2014 at 6:24:40 PM

Yeah, Japanese Goku's voice is just hilarious.

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ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#4914: Feb 11th 2014 at 6:26:43 PM

I've heard some serious voice dissonance in anime, but Goku in Japanese is special. It's like puberty missed his throat somehow.

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#4915: Feb 11th 2014 at 6:27:09 PM

I've heard the Spanish dub is pretty good. Any native Spanish speakers wanna back up that claim? From this clip, [1] I really just came away with the impression that Vegeta's VA was taking a huge dump during the transformation.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#4916: Feb 11th 2014 at 7:02:40 PM

I also saw a Spanish dubbed episode of Z on TV as well.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#4917: Feb 11th 2014 at 7:15:18 PM

Japanese Goku is okay for Dragon Ball but when Z came around they really should have just replaced him. It just doesn't work.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4918: Feb 11th 2014 at 7:28:12 PM

*Her

Japanese Goku is voiced by a woman.

edited 11th Feb '14 7:28:32 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#4919: Feb 11th 2014 at 7:31:18 PM

Oh? Well that makes far more sense but...why?

theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#4920: Feb 11th 2014 at 7:34:06 PM

So he sounds like a kid like he is at heart.

She did make an awesome Dukemon though.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#4921: Feb 11th 2014 at 7:38:24 PM

A woman who was also in her 50's when she first started voicing Goku.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#4922: Feb 11th 2014 at 8:15:45 PM

And is god knows how old now.

And yes, she was a spectacular Dukemon.

In fact, just like Goku, she still plays Dukemon whenever he appears.

edited 11th Feb '14 8:15:58 PM by HandsomeRob

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#4923: Feb 11th 2014 at 8:34:54 PM

I think she was a voice in Astro Boy too.

edited 11th Feb '14 8:35:06 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4924: Feb 11th 2014 at 9:16:53 PM

Apparently hating on Nozawa is an unpopular opinion to the more devoted core DB fanbase. But I can't help it. Goku's Japanese voice hurts my ears. Not even exaggerating here. Most of the rest of the voice actors are okay to good... but it doesn't matter much sometimes, like in the Buu Saga, where Nozawa voices fucking everybody. And I'm not kidding; three major characters in the Buu Saga (Goku, Gohan, Goten), half of two other major characters (Gotenks, Vegetto), and two and a half relatively minor characters from the anime earlier (Tullece, Bardock, Gogeta).

Speaking of which, the original Funimation dub was much less awful in the Buu Saga. Robertson and Cook were pretty good as Dabra and Super Buu.

@Cru:

Okay. Not sure what that has to do with anything. I was just pointing out that "Vegeta isn't scared of anything" is wrong.

No, it's not. If I was talking about relevancy as in battle power, Vegeta would obviously completely beat out Piccolo. But I'm not. Piccolo and Vegeta were equally relevant in the Cell arc. In the Buu arc, both are complete garbage to the villain, so it doesn't matter which is stronger than the other. Piccolo actually gets a lot of screen time and good moments that show off his more cunning side, while Vegeta helps the villain, arrogantly charges at said villain, and gets ass-stomped while the villain literally laughs at how weak he is. This happened to all three forms of Buu (in the anime, at least). He only had some last minute relevancy because Toriyama didn't think Gohan was suited for the hero role and he needed to give Goku a sidekick, but even then, I'd argue that Piccolo is more relevant to the story than him, since all Vegeta does when he arrives is repeatedly fuck-up some more and make the arc significantly less enjoyable.

Goku is Vegeta's rival, but not vice versa. Goku sees Vegeta as weak trash, as he should. Goku can kill him in one punch at any time after the ROSAT training.

[up][up][up][up][up] Because it's customary for children to be voiced by women. By the time Goku underwent his growth spurt, people had become so used to Nozawa voicing the character that they couldn't just replace her- Nozawa was Goku.

edited 11th Feb '14 9:23:14 PM by sockpuppet1

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4925: Feb 11th 2014 at 9:19:40 PM

Apparently hating on Nozawa is an unpopular opinion to the more core DB fanbase

That is to say, the popular opinion seems to be worshipping the ground she walks on.tongue


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