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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#48426: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:02:58 PM

That's what's great about it, it's going to suck...just like the original.

Waiting is sucking.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#48427: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:08:50 PM

Reminder that Beerus tapped a planet in half because he thought the food was too greasy.

If that doesn't scream "petty", I don't know what does. Hate to see how much bigger assholes the other gods are.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#48428: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:11:11 PM

Well Champa did try to claim a planet by forcing a bunch of strong guys to win a tournament for him and claim said planet as his prize.

And I skipped the first quarter of the baseball episode but I'm assuming he tried the same stunt via the baseball game.

Vados and Whis simply don't care.

edited 16th Dec '16 9:11:42 PM by Soble

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#48429: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:12:57 PM

[up][up]It'd be nice if they weren't like that.

It's bad enough that the ruler of the universe is a spoiled child who can erase the entire universe on nothing more then a whim (and now there's fucking two of him thanks to Goku).

It's bad enough that the gods who aren't dicks are so weak that any powerful (and evil mortal) can surpass them and then just take over if they wanted (or if they actively do something, a Pink bubblegum monster slaughters them).

And when you get a single god who might have actually fared well against such enemies, he decides FUCK THE MORTALS and decides to start killing everything and not even letting the Gods sort them out, because he killed them too.

I'd like a few gods who are powerful and genuinely benevolent as well, though then the plot has to ensure that something happens to prevent them from helping anyway, so what can you do.

edited 16th Dec '16 9:14:12 PM by HandsomeRob

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#48430: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:13:06 PM

[up][up]He didn't try the same stunt in the Baseball episode...the prize was suppose to be food and he forgot.

edited 16th Dec '16 9:13:33 PM by randomness4

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#48431: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:15:31 PM

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I think Whis' dad might be even more unrepentant. I mean, his children's universes could be destroyed, and he seems A-OK with that prospect.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#48432: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:18:32 PM

The only way I can see a series including powerful, benevolent gods is if the series explains that these gods can't help anyone because their busy fighting the Dragon Ball equivalent of Dormammu. Otherwise, you have to maintain dramatic tension by keeping gods incompetent.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#48433: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:21:23 PM

[up](4) For some reason that made me realize that all the gods in this series are to some some degree apathetic.

King Kai Kami wouldn't step in against King Piccolo until Goku showed up, or the Red Ribbon Army. King Kai only contacted anyone once the... well after Goku showed up. Supreme Kai didn't care enough to back up his claim about felling Freeza. Beerus didn't care about Freeza, or Buu wiping out the Kaioshin. Whis certainly didn't care...

(Wait, isn't only that Gods of Destruction die when the Supreme Kai die? What happened to Whis in Trunks's timeline? I thought he was an "angel," does that count for God of Destruction even though he's just an attendant/teacher?)

...about Beerus getting whacked because of Buu and Babidi killing the Supreme Kais. In the anime the Grand Kai and the other Kais didn't care about King Kai's affairs. Zeno didn't care about Zamasu until Goku... well, made him show up. Our Zeno doesn't care about Mira, Towa, or any of the weirdness going on.

And then there's Goku and Vegeta. Goku doesn't care how evil his opponent is and mostly just wants a good fight. Vegeta is the king of IDGAF. One could assume that the gods all feel that mortals shouldn't rely on them, and Goku even champions this idea in the Buu Saga before deciding to come back to life and have everyone rely on him.

[up](2) Ah, well, that's... significantly more mundane. Absurd as it was I kind of chuckled at the idea of the fate of the planet being decided by a baseball game.

edited 16th Dec '16 9:27:14 PM by Soble

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#48434: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:23:17 PM

I'm definitely getting the sense that the citizens of the multiverse (and possibly the Gods of Destruction) will rise up against Zen-O and the Grand Priest for this tournament because seriously, dick move.

This song needs more love.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#48435: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:24:45 PM

Why would they do that? He's not making them kill each other...

edited 16th Dec '16 9:25:21 PM by randomness4

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#48436: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:26:21 PM

[up][up][up]Did you mean to say Kami a few times where you said King Kai?

edited 16th Dec '16 9:26:56 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#48437: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:27:17 PM

[up][up]Well, their universes could be destroyed in a tournament that many of them probably did not want to participate in, all for what is likely the sadistic amusement of a god with the mentality of a child.

edited 16th Dec '16 9:27:39 PM by hardcorefakes

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#48438: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:27:35 PM

Because supposedly they are wiping out the losing universes.

I kinda sick of evil and apathetic beings being the dominant forces in the Dragonball universe.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#48439: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:28:33 PM

[up][up][up][up]He's threatening to blow up everyone and everything they love if they don't fight as well as the others. If that's not tyranny, I don't know what is.

edited 16th Dec '16 9:29:06 PM by LordVatek

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#48440: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:29:08 PM

Yeah, that's nothing to be upset about.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#48441: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:29:50 PM

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How is that not something to be upset about?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#48442: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:31:23 PM

There's no argument, they...just can't do anything about it.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#48443: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:34:23 PM

Maybe not but if nothing else, I'm sure the losing universes would all rather go down fighting against a common foe than just lie back and accept it.

edited 16th Dec '16 9:34:30 PM by LordVatek

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#48444: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:34:54 PM

Regarding the baseball plot, it was intended at first to be a fun, casual game of sports, to deepen the bonds between U7 and U6, but Champa set it on U7's Earth because he wanted to eat the food there afterwards, and he didn't care about the game itself until Vados mentioned that proper exercise before a meal can make said meal taste better.

(also, why would you skip the first third of any episode of any show? Is your time really so valuable that you can't waste 7 minutes of it on set-up?)

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#48445: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:35:02 PM

[up][up][up]...That doesn't mean somebody shouldn't be upset about that, just because they have no control over it.

Perhaps the average citizen won't even know about this tournament, but for the fighters involved....the fate of their homes rests on their shoulders. So there is some control there, and I'd imagine that they'd be pretty upset if their universe got deleted.

edited 16th Dec '16 9:37:26 PM by hardcorefakes

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#48446: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:35:24 PM

Well that's a problem to me.

It's a massive in universe problem.

It's the reason the Red Ribbon army would have taken over the world (and they didn't even need the dragon balls to do it, as their army was powerful enough that it was already just going where it wanted to go and doing what it pleased with no one to stop it), and it's the reason Frieza already ruled the universe.

They were just so powerful they could do whatever the fuck they wanted, and anyone else powerful just bowed down and joined them.

That kind of apathy is the reason the only guy who's ever stopped either of them is a Fight crazy Manchild who just came across them by accident and fucked them up because they got in his way / picked on his friends respectively.

That's not right. Zeno rules because he can just do what he wants and there's no one who can even stop him? Fuck the little turd.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#48447: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:37:28 PM

I guess these are gonna be the type of characters who actually care about their existence...

Everybody has to question god, oh well. Hopefully mercy is placed down on the poor fools.

edited 16th Dec '16 9:38:17 PM by randomness4

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#48448: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:42:41 PM

The only way I see mercy playing out is if Zeno and the Grand Priest are lying about universes being destroyed to motivate the fighters even more.

Then again, Zeno already has precedent of destroying things on a whim....so I doubt that happens.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#48449: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:45:08 PM

Mercy against the fools who will foolishly rise up against the Zeno...

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#48450: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:46:58 PM

Well, hopefully their deaths would be swift and painless.


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