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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#48251: Dec 14th 2016 at 11:27:34 PM

Super the anime isn't that bad past the recapping of the movies. I would dare say it is actually good... shockingly enough. The comedy has been quite good, especially the last two episodes.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#48252: Dec 14th 2016 at 11:27:43 PM

[up][up] I accept what's happening as "canon", I just don't really feel the need to experience the ride as it's happening. Well, determining which version is supposed to be canon here is kind of tricky, I'd just go with the anime because it's happening first.

The manga sounds boring and the anime has...other problems from the sounds of it.

Maybe if the tournament is reported as cool I tune into it before it's over.

edited 14th Dec '16 11:29:02 PM by LSBK

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#48253: Dec 14th 2016 at 11:35:44 PM

I love Super, and while it has flaws, I think it's better than the Z anime. I would strongly recommend not skipping the first two arcs, since while the movies are better, Super does do certain scenes better, like Vegeta pummeling Freeza.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#48254: Dec 14th 2016 at 11:37:14 PM

If anything else, it's something to watch and it's not like I don't enjoy a lot of it's moments. Really, it just takes an open mind and taking a lot of things at face value.

But I understand that it has a lot of issues that can turn people away and refuse to acknowledge it as worthy successor in the series.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#48255: Dec 14th 2016 at 11:47:21 PM

It's not like there is anything better to watch Shonen wise lately.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#48256: Dec 15th 2016 at 12:15:02 AM

I mean, there's Jojo and... uh...

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#48257: Dec 15th 2016 at 1:24:17 AM

I know I'm kinda late to this, but how did Hit lengthen his time-skip technique in the middle of a fight?

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#48258: Dec 15th 2016 at 1:41:17 AM

Through progress of perfect proportions. tongue

edited 15th Dec '16 1:41:40 AM by Rinsankajugin

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#48259: Dec 15th 2016 at 1:44:07 AM

Manga gets points for not giving Black that absurd Zenkai ability.Now he's getting Zenkais cause Zamasu heals him.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#48260: Dec 15th 2016 at 2:10:37 AM

That's one good thing.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#48261: Dec 15th 2016 at 3:07:17 AM

To be honest, a consistent influx of God-tier villians feels quite off.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#48262: Dec 15th 2016 at 3:22:34 AM

But when two of them are literally Gods and also the same person, it's completely justifiable in that case.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#48263: Dec 15th 2016 at 4:57:17 AM

I am not at all surprised by the idea that Vegetto or "Super" Trunks are anime only, and I'm glad if the manga doesn't use them. But Rose being anime only would be a surprise, even if the form is not explained and doesn't seem fitting. I would find it strange if Black was really limited to just Super Saiyan 1 if he body swapped with a post-God Goku, unless there is a twist to that. I'm also starting to feel like maybe this is just being rushed due to how far it is behind the anime, in which case, that would really suck and I wouldn't see much point in the manga any more if it can't even tell the story it wants to.

On the other hand, Zamasu and Goku Black being this easily overwhelmed does mean they can use Potara to fuse without causing unnecessary power inflation. I really don't like that Super has introduced multiple huge power-ups and still refused to get Goku get anywhere close to Beerus. Having God-tier characters use Potara here would be quite ridiculous.

[up][up] I agree, Super has made it harder for the enemies to reach the "God tier" which I appreciate over the anime version. I'm still interested to see how this plays out. Now, if only the manga had done something in its version to remove Freeza from God tier

My biggest fear is that merged Zamasu is strong enough to beat Goku and Vegeta, but Goku calls Zeno to finish him (and maybe the timeline). That would be a rather boring ending and an even worse use of that plot thread than the anime version, which at least had the immortality to justify the need.

[up] Just because Zamasu is a God doesn't justify it. The Kaioshin have never been that powerful, and actual Gods cover a really wide range that tends more toward being really weak. "God tier" is really just the new term for the Post-BOG higher levels that treat God as something special again. But Kaioshin were never special, and nothing has really changed to justify one becoming so strong.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#48264: Dec 15th 2016 at 4:59:15 AM

TBH Zamasu never had the upper hand in battle in the FT saga. You have an argument for Black, but, in any case, the Sorting Algorythm Of Evil is to be discarded if you have Beerus as unsurpassable. Manga!Hit, as somebody really strong, but still not in the God tier, but skilled enough to make a difference, is the way to go in my opinion.

Then again, Toei was already going with mooks "stronger than Majin Buu" in GT.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#48265: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:04:31 AM

Zamasu was stated to be a fighting prodigy, and mortal prodigies created such beings as Goku, Vegeta, and Freeza, while normal Kaioshin seem to hover around Super Saiyan 1 Cell Saga Goku level by default. I see no issue whatsoever with Zamasu being as strong as he is, given series precedent.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#48266: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:10:54 AM

It's not like there is anything better to watch Shonen wise lately...

o_o

Don't be f'cking ridiculous random person on the internet whose feelings I am completely disregarding for the sake of rebuttal! It's like we don't randomly mention Jojo or One Punch Man or Hunter X Hunter in this thread at least once a month!

Super's good but goodness gracious if you've somehow ignored the above 3 stop reading this and watch them. Watch them now!

edited 15th Dec '16 5:34:27 AM by Soble

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#48267: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:22:24 AM

One Punch Man is classified as Seinen.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#48268: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:25:25 AM

One Punch and Hunter X Hunter are both on varying forms of hiatus.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#48269: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:25:50 AM

[up][up][up][up] everyone's a prodigy by now, it's just become lazy

all this prodigy this and "i was this strong before training, ill be proportinally stronger after training!" has become really stale

ewwww... H x H

edited 15th Dec '16 5:26:07 AM by Saiga

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#48270: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:27:39 AM

Oh look the manga continues to be boring and terrible. What a surprise.

[up][up][up][up] Hunter X Hunter.... Good.... Pick one.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#48271: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:32:36 AM

I mean, wasn't our Kaioshin, from the East explicitly stated in both anime and manga to be the youngest, weakest, and least experienced before Buu killed them all?

Like, yeah, that still puts them all as being weaker than Kid Buu (or, at least, if they are as strong or stronger, not skilled, efficient, or smart enough to get around Buu's regeneration, stamina and absorption) but.

I'm just saying. Shin/East Supreme Kai isn't quite the best metric for what all Supreme Kai are like. Even where Universe 7 is concerned, he's the bottom of the barrel.

edited 15th Dec '16 5:37:14 AM by unnoun

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#48272: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:39:47 AM

Don't care, still prefer the manga.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#48273: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:43:59 AM

I mean, I don't remember, but I think the manga did mention that Buu killed all the other Supreme Kais, and absorbed 2 of them, and that each of those Supreme Kais made ours look like pathetic garbage.

The anime just showed the actual fights via flashback.

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#48274: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:46:04 AM

For Good Shonen, Boku No Hero Academia, Seven Deadly Sins and The Promised Neverland are something to look at if you want.

Watch Symphogear
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#48275: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:47:07 AM

@ Pushover Media Critic and @Eriorguez

Come to think of it, Toei does seem to adhere to the Sorting Algorithm of Evil even mor ethna Toriyama does. Super seems to even push the whole 'Always Someone Better' trope to its logical extreme where they are God Tier characters that are more powerful than the god our heroes clashed with and he is only powerful in the universe that they are in. It could also be that Toei just doesn't care about that as long as they introduce more powerful foes for Goku beat up.

edited 15th Dec '16 5:52:08 AM by GAP

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