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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#4801: Feb 8th 2014 at 2:16:15 PM

I never noticed Tien was that much taller than Goku.

edited 8th Feb '14 2:16:52 PM by Kostya

ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#4802: Feb 8th 2014 at 2:16:39 PM

Well, that extra material has to go somewhere, right? It actually makes logical sense that putting two people together would make them taller by addition.

sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4803: Feb 8th 2014 at 2:18:08 PM

[up][up] If anything, he's too short in that chart. But that does match with his official height of 187 cm much better than some of the shots in the series, where he's a whole head above Goku.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#4804: Feb 8th 2014 at 3:00:27 PM

Let's try another example:

  • Bardock - Oozaru
  • Bardock - Super Saiyan - Super Saiyan 2
  • Bardock - Evil Bardock

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#4805: Feb 8th 2014 at 3:06:20 PM

Evil?

You mean regular Bardock?

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
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#4807: Feb 8th 2014 at 4:23:21 PM

You know, considering that Bardock has both the Great Ape and Super Saiyan transformations at his disposal, do you guys think that it's possible for Golden Great Ape, and by proxy Super Saiyan 4 Bardock to happen?

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#4808: Feb 8th 2014 at 4:36:40 PM

Depends if he can control that much power without going apeshit crazy.

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#4809: Feb 8th 2014 at 5:07:20 PM

[up] apeshit

Oh, you. wink

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4810: Feb 8th 2014 at 6:24:58 PM

Well, in GT, didn't Elder Kai say he knew a Super Saiyan 4 or had seen it before? Maybe that was Bardock. :P

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#4812: Feb 8th 2014 at 6:36:00 PM

Truth be told, I don't mind Bardock achieving Super Saiyan 2. So long as it's not, like, one week after he got Super Saiyan 1. I assume he still did years of fighting and training after Episode of Bardock.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#4813: Feb 8th 2014 at 6:55:42 PM

GT doesn't count so we can probably just ignore what the Kai said although it would explain the ape like form in this picture if Bardock became a golden Oozaru.

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4814: Feb 8th 2014 at 6:56:29 PM

I just re-read the Android/Cell Arc and a common complaint about that arc was that the "aliens, superhumans and robots" were always winning and I gotta say, virtually all of the "aliens, superhumans and robots" got the short end of the stick in that arc. The only person who seemed to get as much as he put him from it was Future Trunks.

Goku - Was on the verge of beating Android 19 but started to suffer a heart virus which put him out of action until the Cell Games and by that point he had fallen so far down the pecking order in terms of strength he had to invent a new form of Super Saiyan just to keep up and it still wasn't enough to defeat Cell.

Gohan - Became the strongest of the Z Fighters by a wide margin, defeated Cell and saved the universe but in the process went through a borderline case of Character Derailment that caused the deaths of Goku and Future Trunks. Only one of them were brought back to life.

Vegeta - After saving Goku's life and owning Android 19 its pretty much downhill for Vegeta after that point. He gets his ass kicked by a girl, for a brief period became the strongest character in the show... and did jack-shit except make situation even worse and was eventually beaten senseless by Perfect Cell... twice.

Future Trunks - Absolutely owned Frieza, King Cold, King Cold's soldiers, killed Larva Cell, destroyed Dr Gero's with Krillin's help, laughably beaten by Android 17 & 18, became the strongest character in the show at one point... still wasn't enough to beat Cell, goes back to his timeline and effortlessly destroys Android 17 & 18 and Cell and saves the world in his timeline.

Piccolo - Become the strongest character in the show... again. And still can defeat a significant villain... again. The best he could do was cut off Dr Gero's arm and fight evenly with Android 17 until Cell arrive and nearly killed him. Piccolo never fought again after that.

Cell - Ran rings around the Z-Fighters in his Imperfect form. Curb stomped Piccolo, Android 16, Android 17, Android 18, Vegeta (Twice!), was so much stronger than Goku during their battle he didn't even use a fraction of his power, beat the hell out of Super Saiyan Gohan and nearly destroyed the Solar System. His greatest failure... intentionally holding the Villain Ball during his fight with Gohan.

Android 16 - Good Lord. He arguably got the worst treatment of any character in that whole arc. He gets his ass kicked by Cell twice and then gets one-shotted and killed by Cell during the Cell Games and is never heard from again.

Android 17 - Fought evenly with Piccolo but was then curb stomped and absorbed by Cell and is never heard from again, save a cameo appearance in the Majin Buu Arc.

Android 18 - Beat Vegeta's ass six ways to Sunday and was eventually absorbed by Cell. Miraculously lived after being spat out by Cell, but was then Demoted to Extra in the Majin Buu Arc.

Android 19 - Nearly killed Goku but was then humiliatingly killed by Vegeta

Dr Gero - Got one of his hands cut off by Piccolo and was then effortlessly killed by Android 17

edited 9th Feb '14 3:09:09 AM by FireShadow

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4815: Feb 8th 2014 at 7:00:14 PM

I know GT doesn't count, it's just someone suggested SSJ 4 Bardock.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#4816: Feb 8th 2014 at 7:54:31 PM

I think I have made the ultimate Dragon Ball game roster, but it seems too big to fit on this comment section. You guys know any way to make a text document online?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4817: Feb 8th 2014 at 8:06:33 PM

[up] Google drive. Otherwise, throw it up on mediafire.

Although to be the ultimate fighting roster would have at most 70 characters.

edited 8th Feb '14 8:28:57 PM by Saiga

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#4818: Feb 8th 2014 at 8:46:13 PM

There's 190 unique characters from Dragon Ball, DBZ, DBGT, DBO, DBH and a couple other Dragon Ball-related stuff in my ideal dream roster.

Note, transformations don't count as separate characters and you gain new ones for the characters by leveling them up. Also, there's 5 races for customization. (Saiyan, Majin, Android, Namekian, Changeling)

Also, neither Google Drive nor Mediafire are working for me for some reason.

edited 8th Feb '14 9:06:46 PM by Rinsankajugin

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#4820: Feb 8th 2014 at 9:07:41 PM

I find it odd how the main characters of DBO don't have names.

edited 8th Feb '14 9:08:00 PM by Rinsankajugin

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4821: Feb 8th 2014 at 9:25:17 PM

That's because there aren't main characters of DBO.

Also, DBH is made by Dimps, Tenkaichi is Spike. DBH: Budokai would have made much more sense as the title.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#4822: Feb 8th 2014 at 9:42:03 PM

Touche, though I wish there was a way to combine the gameplay styles of Budokai and Tenkaichi. Or maybe an updated version of Super DBZ's gameplay style.

edited 8th Feb '14 9:42:18 PM by Rinsankajugin

sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4823: Feb 9th 2014 at 2:36:44 AM

You're making me want to just write out all the transformation branches... so I will! To the best of my knowledge, anyway.

SAIYANS

Base —-> (False Super Saiyan) —-> Super Saiyan Grade I —-> Super Saiyan Grade II —-> Super Saiyan Grade III

Base —-> (Restrained Super Saiyan) —-> Super Saiyan —-> Legendary Super Saiyan —-> Legendary Super Saiyan 3

Base —-> Mastered Super Saiyan —-> Super Saiyan 2 —-> Super Saiyan 3

Base —-> Oozaru —-> Golden Oozaru —-> Super Saiyan 4

Base —-> Saiyan God

FREEZA-CLAN

3rd Suppression <—- 2nd Suppression <—- 1st Suppression <—- Base —-> Bulked-Up

Base —-> Super Form

MAJIN BUU (his transformations really don't work like the others)

Good: Good Buu <—- Fat Buu —-> Mister Buu (?)

Pure: Kid Buu —-> Buff Buu

Evil: Super Buu —-> Buucccolo —-> Buutenks —-> Buuhan

PERFECT CELL

Base —-> Powered-Up —-> Power-Weighted

Base —-> Super

OTHER

Makyans: Base —-> Super Form

Herans: Base —-> Super Form

Zarbon: Suppressed Form <—- Base

Super Nameks: Base —-> Giant Form

edited 9th Feb '14 2:44:01 AM by sockpuppet1

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#4824: Feb 9th 2014 at 5:33:37 AM

Note, transformations don't count as separate characters and you gain new ones for the characters by leveling them up

Good god, no.

That crappy fighting game level-up system. Oh hey, you won a fight without losing any health, here's some experience points!

GOKU has reached LEVEL 3! SUPER SAIYAN SKILL is unlocked for MULTIPLAYER!

waii

edited 9th Feb '14 5:37:36 AM by FOFD

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#4825: Feb 9th 2014 at 9:14:08 AM

Bardock doesn't seem like the type to learn how to fully master Super Saiyan (let's for a second ignore how much I hate that they gave him Super Saiyan). He never seemed like the type to actively train, but the type to depend on Zenkais. He just threw himself onto the battlefield against stronger and stronger opponents, healed up and then did it again.

What I'm getting at is he shouldn't have Super Saiyan 2.

edited 9th Feb '14 9:14:24 AM by Cruherrx

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