Look, Super Saiyans form work by multiplying base form power. The first is times 50, second 100, third 400. Before they go into those forms that power literally isn't there. It's like the Kaioken except better and more sustainable.
Elder Kai draw all the power he could possible have (at the time?) so that there was no need to transform and it's useless for him to try.
You're conflating two things that you really shouldn't.
edited 13th Dec '16 6:59:55 PM by LSBK
https://twitter.com/pkjd/status/808985811014205441
Next Arc of Super revealed. As well as the return of some people who have been kept on the sidelines too long.
Why are there two 18s?
36?
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.![]()
It most certainly...likely is, but that figure, that shape...
FAMILY MEETING! SUPER 17 ABORTED!
By the way, outside of mocking, I never ship characters. I will say however, I would love if Goten and Maron became a couple in the future. I want the family to be closer, damn it D<
edited 14th Dec '16 7:43:28 AM by Tomodachi
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.Wow, if this scan means anything with the characters they've lined up, it's as if the important leftovers/elements of each saga are teaming up - Roshi for early Dragonball, Piccolo and Tien for the King Piccolo/Tournament Sagas, Vegeta for the Saiyan saga, Krillin for the Frieza Saga, the Androids for the Android Saga, Buu for the Buu Saga, and Goku of course, tying everyone together.
Or something.
Neat. Will Gohan actually do something this time around?
edited 14th Dec '16 8:49:00 AM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!Kaioken Goku!
Now we need Granny Black, Toddler Vegeta and the Pear Kai and I will be happy.
Also, Hit opening animation was improved, awesome!
edited 14th Dec '16 10:26:29 AM by Tomodachi
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.

Except here's the thing, the Super Saiyan forms do build off from the Saiyan's power with their full potential in mind, otherwise Gohan wouldn't lose the ability to use them when he's Ultimate Gohan. It's either use the forms, or use his full potential; the two don't mix.
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!