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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#47476: Dec 1st 2016 at 9:19:16 AM

Ok, I get that, but again, after all he's been through (and after what we've seen happen to another Trunks in Super) the boy deserves some happiness.

Hell, the reason that Skot didn't erase Trunks' timeline changes is because she's planned to take action herself, so she decided to cut him some slack.

She more then anyone likely understands how much Trunks truly deserves something resembling a happy ending, and that's why she's not immediately jumping to alter things back to how they were. I mean, if there's a possibility that making things better won't cause any problems, I can see why she's taking time to think about it.

Of course, there's still the high probability that Black is still gonna come and wreck his shit, so Trunks may ultimately still lose anyway.

Edit: I'm gonna look at that as her wanting to at least her the Cac's opinion because s/he'd done more then enough to earn a say in the matter.

Plus, I was under the impression that, while she's making the ultimate decision on the matter, she hasn't totally ruled out fixing or not fixing.

edited 1st Dec '16 9:21:06 AM by HandsomeRob

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#47477: Dec 1st 2016 at 9:27:09 AM

I think they're leaving it open to cause issues down the line in a DLC. Possibly in the form of a green kaioshin.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47478: Dec 1st 2016 at 9:39:21 AM

Yeah it occurred to me that was the reason.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#47479: Dec 1st 2016 at 10:44:10 AM

So I just watched one of the secret endings to Xenoverse 2 where [[spoiler: Xeno Trunks punches the timeline in the balls and saves Gohan from his pre-ordained death at the hands of the Androids. Honestly, you can't blame him, especially with what happened in Super (which may not have happened to this Trunks, but there's a possibility that despite the change back to purple hair he is that Trunks as well.

And it all still may go wrong later. Kid has it rough.]]

Did he create Flashpoint? Er... Trunkspoint?

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#47480: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:27:08 AM

So, changing the timeline is very bad, unless Trunks does it? Protagonist-Centered Morality much?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#47481: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:35:00 AM

No, the game acknowledges it's bad in story, just that people want Future Trunks to have a happy ending and it's not going to give you the chose of taking it away.

It's trying to have its cake and eat it too.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#47482: Dec 1st 2016 at 11:55:58 AM

Pretty much.

No body is ignoring the fact that what Trunks did was wrong (even he knows he shouldn't have done it) but if the fact of all the shit he's been through, and all the good he's tried to done, just shutting him down isn't something anyone can do straight up.

Hell, it's clear even if he doesn't know the full story, even Future Gohan knows Trunks did something he shouldn't have. I got the impression he was well aware that he wasn't supposed to survive this battle, even if Trunks never got the chance to say it outright.

We'll see how it works out in the end.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#47483: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:09:00 PM

Now, I was wondering...

Was that the Time Patrol Trunks that we know, or a Time Patrol Trunks that was created by a timeline split?

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#47484: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:12:06 PM

Does the player get an option to prevent Trunks transgression?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#47486: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:30:36 PM

Well, in the one I watched, they said to leave it.

TFS said to change it.

Either way, it seems like she's still considering it, probably for all the reasons stated before. I mean, she doesn't make a decision right then or there, but that doesn't mean she's gonna let it slide.

She is the Supreme Kai of Time. She might have a slightly better idea of potential consequences then anyone else.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#47487: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:36:28 PM

Maybe we'll get DLC somewhere down the line where you do get to prevent Trunks from beating the Androids.

Honestly one of the most disappointing parts of Xenoverse is just how little creativity goes into the story and parallel quests, mostly because it's much more multiplayer oriented than it should be.

The fact that we only ever fight the bad guys is very disappointing, and it's always the same thing, Towa makes a villain stronger than they're supposed to be, jump in, save the day.

The way I would make Xenoverse is that there's no villain at all, rather, it's a Time Squad type of thing where history is a rope that is so long that it's getting frayed and tearing apart, so we need to go back and fix it when it does. Have stuff other than just beating up a bad guy happen, like, I dunno, having to go all over the world collecting the dragonballs (and I do mean all over the world and not just Namek) because the heroes couldn't do it in time to revive Goku before Nappa kills Gohan, or having to protect Freeza from Super Saiyan Goku while he goes 100% because Goku is both too furious to spare Freeza out of kindness and not furious enough to spare him out of cruelty, or maybe even having to beat the tar out of Goku and Vegeta because they decided to deal with Majin Buu first before having their final all out no holds barred ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny while making sure to not kill either of them, etc.

Basically, what I'm saying is, I want a more original plot for Xenoverse 3 than just Xenoverse 1 and 2 again.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#47488: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:40:21 PM

The Kais are just worthless, no surprise here. I bet there's no option to kick SKoT ass either.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#47489: Dec 1st 2016 at 12:46:43 PM

She's not even an available fighter (Even though she's supposed to be able to fight - she was the one who originally sealed Demigra in the crack of time) so you can't punish her for her bullshit.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#47490: Dec 1st 2016 at 1:15:04 PM

I mean, it's not like you'd win; she's the fucking God of Time, she could probably just throw you into the void between timelines if she wanted to, or pull a Sarda and send you rotating around a point three seconds to the left of the future.

edited 1st Dec '16 1:15:17 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#47491: Dec 1st 2016 at 1:16:36 PM

Which is weird since she's playable in heroes.

And I know what you mean. One of the NP Cs mentioned how he had to ensure the Saiyan war on universe 7's Planet Salada happened, i would have loved to have played that.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#47492: Dec 1st 2016 at 1:19:23 PM

[up][up]If she could do cool things like that she wouldn't need random mortals to do her job instead of her.

For such high ranked gods Supreme Kai's always were useless.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#47493: Dec 1st 2016 at 1:19:51 PM

So was the reason for the destruction of Planet Salada retconned now, because the original reason was that the Original Super Saiyan destroyed the whole planet by self-destructing, because his power was too great for his body to contain any further.

Which ironically, was the same problem Broly had in his first movie, as he had to let out a lot of energy midway in the big fight scene due to his ki rising higher than he could comfortably contain.

edited 1st Dec '16 1:20:19 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#47494: Dec 1st 2016 at 1:55:30 PM

Not only would my Ca C win, it wouldn't even last five seconds. Because much like the rest of her race, she's strong, yes, hella strong... but a complete joke compared to the main characters, all of whom I've already stomped.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#47495: Dec 1st 2016 at 2:04:32 PM

Which ironically, was the same problem Broly had in his first movie, as he had to let out a lot of energy midway in the big fight scene due to his ki rising higher than he could comfortably contain.

Which pretty much never happens to any other character in any other continuity.

edited 1st Dec '16 2:05:40 PM by Soble

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#47496: Dec 1st 2016 at 2:14:50 PM

Except for the Original Super Saiyan, who died because his body couldn't handle the energy anymore, which took out the planet he was on with him.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#47497: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:38:42 PM

A story which we don't actually know whether it's true or not.

In fact, if Episode of Bardock is treated as canon, we know exactly who the first Super Saiyan was and we also know that he was completely fine and able to control his power.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#47498: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:41:24 PM

But Episode of Bardock is in fact bullshit....

Unless S Kot sneezed by accident when Vegeta was being destroyed.

Or Towa did for shits and giggles.....

Or Demigra decided he didn't like Chilled's face.

edited 1st Dec '16 3:47:01 PM by HandsomeRob

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#47499: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:43:34 PM

[up]That last one sounds plausible. Chilled has a very punchable face.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#47500: Dec 1st 2016 at 3:46:46 PM

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Maybe, but he has a far more breakable butt.tongue

I will say that, if you were a Saiyan that survived the destruction of a planet, you'd likely Zenkai enough to reach Super Saiyan.

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