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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#47126: Nov 24th 2016 at 12:22:40 PM

Yeah, the manga version of the Trunks special specifically had them tell Gohan that they were only ever using around half of their power against him and Trunks, and then proceeded to easily kill him once they stopped.

Plus, remember that manga Trunks was only about equal to Frieza Saga Goku, and that Frieza only died as easily as he did because Trunks killed him before he could power up to his max. Future Gohan was also said to have reached Goku's level of power back on Namek before he died, and he was pretty much torn to shreds once the Androids stopped playing around.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#47127: Nov 24th 2016 at 1:11:32 PM

First of all, we know of three definite timelines from the manga: the present, Future Trunks', and Cell's. There is no mention of a fourth timeline in the manga, that comes from the guidebooks - specifically, Daizenshuu 7, which is also the source for Trunks using the shut down remote to defeat 17 and 18. It also specifies that he got the blueprints from the past AND that he was absent for the Cell Games of that timeline. The timeline not mentioned in the manga is referred to as 'History 4' as the Daizenshuu labels the timelines by when they were introduced in the manga (1 for present, 2 for Trunks' future, 3 for Cell's).

I never knew it was picked up by a third party. That's pretty interesting.

I always bring up the unseen timeline for completeness' sake when explaining how the alternate universes worse, as due to the time travel rules that are explained to us and the narrative situation they create, it must exist for the context to make sense.

Exactly what happened in it is anyone's guess so I wouldn't take the Daizenshuu's description of events to heart, but Cell's Trunks did go somewhere, find out how to defeat the Androids without being strong enough to defeat Cell, and return - and that can't be the "main" timeline.

edited 24th Nov '16 1:28:21 PM by KnownUnknown

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#47128: Nov 24th 2016 at 3:52:20 PM

Now that we're well into DBS, do ya think they'll ever do an updated Daizenshuu?

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#47129: Nov 24th 2016 at 4:54:33 PM

[up][up][up]I'll never understand how Dr. Gero managed to create such powerful cyborgs.

And lets not forget about Cell either.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#47130: Nov 24th 2016 at 5:23:53 PM

Cell has some justification, as he is mostly Freeza, with some Namekian and Saiyan stuff thrown into.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#47131: Nov 24th 2016 at 5:32:16 PM

Is Dr. Gero deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize for genetic engineering and Bio Science?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#47132: Nov 24th 2016 at 5:46:30 PM

Now that we're well into DBS, do ya think they'll ever do an updated Daizenshuu?

If it's just some expanded notes and maybe a breakdown of the Zamasu/Whis timelines, sure. But a fresh power level list, no thank you. Half the fun of Super has been the futility of trying to assign power levels to anyone where most of the main cast is basically "tough, but not as tough as Beerus."

Though I'd still be amused if they reset the PL's to something like: Goku - 7, Beerus - 10, Whis - 15, Merged Zamasu - somewhere between a 6 and a 9.

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#47133: Nov 24th 2016 at 5:50:23 PM

[up][up]If it was used for peace, he probably would be.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#47134: Nov 24th 2016 at 6:30:43 PM

If Gero were a peace advocate, Cell would be excellent at keeping the peace.

Gero'd be all like "Yeah so I see you peeps are fight'n, well, cut that shit out or I'll send my seven foot tall cricket man to vaporize your entire armies in like five seconds. I'm keeping peace, not saving lives, y'all."

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#47135: Nov 24th 2016 at 6:46:40 PM

I kind of hope we get a Super guidebook like that. Everyone talks about Trunks's new form, and the fact is there's some consistency to how he does it. It makes me think at least Toei has an idea over what it actually is, and just didn't bother explaining it because reasons.

And if it makes no sense...we can just ignore it, I guess.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#47136: Nov 24th 2016 at 6:48:09 PM

I think we're gonna have to ignore it.

It is Toei after all, they don't give a shit, so why should we?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#47137: Nov 24th 2016 at 6:53:32 PM

If Gero were a peace advocate, Cell would be excellent at keeping the peace.

I just had the oddest vision of a DBZ-style series where the gang are all diplomats and everyone fights with philosophy. Cell is composed of the DNA of the most cogitative people to exist, in an effort to create the greatest peacekeeper ever conceived.

Of course, in this scenario I suppose that would make the heroes the ones fighting for violence. Which, given Goku, makes sense. evil grin

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#47138: Nov 24th 2016 at 7:08:23 PM

I ignore it already. But it'd be nice to know if there actually was supposed to be an explanation they couldn't be bothered putting in.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#47139: Nov 24th 2016 at 7:16:54 PM

Well, Trunks has that Mutant version of Super Saiyan 2 that's supposed to be as strong as Super Saiyan 3 right?

Maybe the whole thing was in Toriyama's notes, and this is their version of it.

Of course, it's more likely they just ass pulled it, and only Toyotarou came up with that.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#47140: Nov 24th 2016 at 8:12:32 PM

Gero can win the Nobel War Prize for his contributions to death and suffering.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#47141: Nov 24th 2016 at 8:23:26 PM

Well, think of all the good Gero's work could do for the world. He seems to have a working understanding of cells and DNA that's just on a whole other level compared to modern science.

This guy's work could revolutionize modern medicine, robotics, computer science, etc.

edited 24th Nov '16 8:23:57 PM by hardcorefakes

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#47142: Nov 24th 2016 at 8:30:14 PM

He had a power no other human had. He had the ability to make humans relevant in power discussions.

edited 24th Nov '16 8:31:05 PM by Zeromaeus

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#47143: Nov 24th 2016 at 8:30:45 PM

Too bad he used it to settle a petty grudge and avenge a army that was made entirely for one man's ego.

And that the Z Warriors consistently blew up all his stuff, leaving only a few notes that the other two smartest people on the planet can't even fully understand.

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#47144: Nov 24th 2016 at 8:39:02 PM

I feel like Bulma's feat of creating a working time machine is overall a much more impressive feat of science, but Gero's work would have had much more impact on the world for the average person than a time machine would.

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#47145: Nov 25th 2016 at 12:33:25 AM

There's something of a perverse irony in Zamasu's final actions. He effectively achieved what Majin Buu, the gravest enemy the Kais have ever know, has spent its entire existence trying to achieve-the destruction of the universe

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#47146: Nov 25th 2016 at 1:20:52 AM

Something odd about Fusions' localization, they replaced swords with sticks for some reason.

It could be some sort of censor, but it doesn't really make sense considering characters say 'hell' a lot and the .22 Gun special move is still intact.

edited 25th Nov '16 1:21:24 AM by Rinsankajugin

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#47147: Nov 25th 2016 at 1:31:02 AM

I noticed that, but I just figured it was for the characters who didn't have swords like, Trunks and Janemba are the same. If not, that's really dumb.

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#47148: Nov 25th 2016 at 8:22:24 AM

Dragon Ball GT Villains

I added better pictures for the villains of Dragon Ball GT. I couldn't find any modern picture of the Parapara brothers, though. I hope you guys enjoy it!

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#47149: Nov 25th 2016 at 8:25:21 AM

Much better than those square portraits.

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#47150: Nov 25th 2016 at 9:15:14 AM

Now I embrace the sweet embrace of death

[up] I know right? I like Baby artwork, of all others. His picture says a lot about his personality.

Still, I wish The Parapa brothers had better artwork. Where can I search for GT concept artwork? Maybe I can find something.

edited 25th Nov '16 9:30:40 AM by Tomodachi

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