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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#46776: Nov 18th 2016 at 8:44:35 PM

That's basically just an older looking her beating up Perfect Cell; how is that less of a joke character than her normal self?

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#46777: Nov 18th 2016 at 8:44:43 PM

I feel like that photo was partially made for fanservice...

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Well I can tell you one reason why it's wrong: She can't age. Dr. Slump had it as a plot point that Arale can't age.

edited 18th Nov '16 8:45:30 PM by AdricDePsycho

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#46778: Nov 18th 2016 at 8:47:20 PM

I mean, she's a robot; why would she age in the first place?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#46779: Nov 18th 2016 at 8:51:28 PM

Well, looks less like a gag character. Comically undersized clothing aside.

Anyway, I'd say it's irrelevant what she did in early Dragonball - A) because I doubt Toei cares that much about consistency as the fanbase does, B) because nobody watched Dragonball and most of today's viewers probably wouldn't remember or care, and C) we have no reason to assume that what she did in a much earlier, gag-filled portion of the previous series would define her today in a sequel series. Vegito's time limit and Gohan's mystic powerup being similar examples. We thought we knew how they worked, but we didn't.

edited 18th Nov '16 8:52:26 PM by Soble

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#46780: Nov 18th 2016 at 9:36:02 PM

She only did a single thing...and without much effort. That's not a good feat measurement.

Without much effort she became the best character in BT 3.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
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#46782: Nov 19th 2016 at 2:28:14 AM

Because, you know, cracking the Earth is an impressive feat in Dragon Ball and all. Arale's best "feat" was causing the sun to deflate like a balloon by poking it with a fork, something I'm convinced was an optical illusion created by someone getting drunk and or Arale's own systems malfunctioning, what with lack of the fork extending like the bo, Arale leaving the ground, the ceasing of day and night or the sun even working in such a manner(it, creates helium, I get the "joke", but that's literally the only scene she has to suggest she might be stronger than guys like Freeza or Cell and even taking away every reason why that shouldn't be used as an example of her power, as opposed to say, the time she threw a rock and hit the moon, I still have trouble placing her ahead of any Majin Buu form, let alone four months training Freeza). See, I took that bit about Freezer being the strongest in the universe at face value and assumed that included Arale, but whatever.

You know, there are somethings about putting Dragon Ball and Dr. Slump in the same setting that really need to be addressed, though, even if it's clear from the manga chapter that was the intent. Namely the altered portrayal of God, though I can assume that Dr. Slump God may have been predecessor to "Kami", the timeline really doesn't add up, unless Slump god is a time traveler too. I can buy Senbei not being as famous as Dr. Briefs or Blooma due to having a reputation for his inventions not working as he intends them, but I figure Turbo should be quite famous, at least by the time he grows up, and he should be by now.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#46783: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:46:52 AM

Didn't Arale damage the moon by tossing a pebble at it at one point? I can't remember whether she just cratered it or actually destroyed it, but the point is...

Arale is as strong as she needs to be. She's less Beerus and more Superman.

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#46784: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:52:33 AM

She's less Superman and more Popeye.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#46785: Nov 19th 2016 at 7:54:18 AM

Just to grind the ashes of a dead horse here:

  • Piccolo came to the tournament looking for revenge against Son Go-koo.
  • Raditz came to Earth looking for Goku.
  • Vegeta and Nappa came to earth thanks to word of mouth about Goku being revived by the Dragonballs. By extension Goku is the reason the Saiyans came to Earth because even Piccolo, his mortal enemy, assumed he'd be revived and felt the need to comment on it to a dead man, instead of laughing at his good fortunes, taking Gohan, and running off to raise an evil heir. (Goku and Piccolo split the blame here).
  • Can't pin Namek on Goku because Frieza was going to go there regardless. However, Frieza came to Earth looking for revenge against Goku as well. Twice, matter of fact.
  • Trunks came back from the future to warn Goku, which also brought Future Cell to the present timeline.
  • The Androids were built because Gero wanted to kill Goku.
  • When Cell had completed his programming and become self-actualized, master of his own destiny, he ultimately wanted to fight, guess, Goku.
  • Babidi came to Earth without any knowledge of Goku. It's an extreme coincidence that this just so happened to be the day Goku came back to life for a single day. Not even like a week after, no, the day Goku comes back to life is the day that an evil sorcerer decides to target the Earth.
  • Super Buu didn't really care about Goku specifically.
  • Beerus became interested in Earth due to Goku beating Freeza.
  • Champa had no interest in Goku.
  • Zamasu and Black rose to power because Goku pissed Zamasu off enough to drive him past the breaking point. Up until he met Goku Zamasu was obviously teetering under Gowasu's tutelage, but never actually tried anything, and presumably Kaioshins live for a very long time, so that's a lot of time to lose sanity. Then Goku shows up (in the heretofore unseen Timeline Zamasu), fights him, pisses Zamasu off. Zamasu kills Gowasu, grabs the Super Balls, wishes for Goku's body, and then we have the Future Trunks arc.
    • And if we want to get really crazy - Goku forfeiting against Hit, and influencing Hit into taking a dive, is what allowed Beerus to use the Super Balls, which Gowasu demonstrated to Zamasu, kicking off his plan.
    • Goku making Beerus interested in the Earth in the first place is what made Beerus and Champa decide to host the tournament in the first place.
    • Goku pissing off Gero is what caused Future Trunks's timeline to go wrong, which caused Trunks to travel back in time and splinter the timeline, which made the Supreme Kai aware due to the new Time Ring that formed.

13-2. Add in the secondary bullets and it's actually 14 situations in this franchise that were directly, or indirectly, caused by Goku.

This franchise's worst villain is actually Goku. If Goku had never recovered from that fall, or if he'd stayed dead, the universe would be living under a safe, totalitarian rule by Frieza, who would eventually have run out of planets to sell and either: A) retired and become a farmer, or a civilian, because that's what really strong guys like Goku and Vegeta did, or B) been whacked by Beerus sooner or later, resetting the natural order and returning civilization to chaos anyway.

But come on, work with Freeza and you've got the threat of total nuclear annihilation hanging over your enemies's heads. It's working under Frieza that's hazardous because he seemingly has little regard for his non-thong wearing, less flamboyant underlings. And all that means is your society has to adapt to choreographed dance routines, tiny miniskirts and thongs in order to survive. There are worse evolutionary paths for a species to take.

edited 19th Nov '16 8:12:29 AM by Soble

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#46786: Nov 19th 2016 at 8:15:33 AM

Honestly, I'd be fine if Yamcha's entire contribution to the baseball episode was just teaching everyone how to play baseball.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#46787: Nov 19th 2016 at 8:26:27 AM

Gohan also played baseball in highschool so I would actually expect him to be there instead of Yamcha... because Yamcha.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#46788: Nov 19th 2016 at 8:48:40 AM

Shhhh, let me have this.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#46789: Nov 19th 2016 at 9:05:21 AM

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I don't think that's gonna happen.

You seriously underestimate how much people love mocking Yamcha.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#46790: Nov 19th 2016 at 9:07:16 AM

Apparently DBF is releasing early in some places, so be on the lookout if y'all can snatch early copies.

Jeez, what is it with Gamestop and breaking streetdates?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#46791: Nov 19th 2016 at 9:53:19 AM

[up][up]Not much? It's been toned down mockery lately.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#46792: Nov 19th 2016 at 11:05:02 AM

[up][up]I actually just got it. I had no idea it wasn't supposed to be out yet.

This song needs more love.
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#46793: Nov 19th 2016 at 11:14:51 AM

According to this dataminer, the first DLC characters and variations are Kyabe, Frost, Hit with a Level-Up form and SSJBKK Goku.

edited 19th Nov '16 11:15:51 AM by Rinsankajugin

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#46794: Nov 19th 2016 at 11:22:47 AM

You'd think that Zamasu would be first, since Black is already in the game and all...

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#46795: Nov 19th 2016 at 11:24:19 AM

Can't skip the Universe 6 Saga, ya know what I mean?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#46796: Nov 19th 2016 at 1:42:46 PM

You totally can tho.

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#46797: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:40:47 PM

You shouldn't, it was great.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#46798: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:51:11 PM

Was it really that great though? I mean, we had two gods fighting over food. And one of those gods was a fatass, copy-pasted version of the one we were first introduced to.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#46799: Nov 19th 2016 at 4:00:13 PM

The characters were great, the plot was meh and barely had any stakes (Champa going to Earth and threatening to blow it up if the food is bad is not appreciably worse than Beerus doing so).

Also Fusions is a lot more fun than I anticipated. I would have been perfectly content just creating insane fusions but I'm legitimately enjoying the gameplay itself.

edited 19th Nov '16 4:05:08 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#46800: Nov 19th 2016 at 4:13:36 PM

[up][up]Getting the feeling that making him fat was too different, he's suppose to be the same...

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