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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#46102: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:20:56 PM

I'm just glad that Trunks got the finishing blow. Anyone else would have been lame.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46103: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:21:22 PM

I haven't watched the anime at all so far, so I'm really eager to see how the manga handles the Future Trunks Saga from here out.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#46104: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:22:07 PM

Seriously tho, Trunks pulling an Isildur and going for the ring finger, and thus erasing Zamasu from existence, would had been golden.

AlphaVII Mecha and Waifu, become one! from A part of the endless starry sky Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#46105: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:28:24 PM

Well this was kinda dissappointing, bringing back Gogeta for him not to even finish Zamasu off. Meh.

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#46106: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:31:07 PM

This post

That doesn't make sense with the context. Gowasu said the fusion only lasts an hour. Then we see the fusion end as prematurely here as it did with Buu. It's left to the viewer to decide if this is the same case as with Buu, but it's pretty heavily implied. Especially since there's no way Vegito vs Buu was 1 hour.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#46107: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:31:33 PM

Yeah, because it would be climatic, Trunks goes back in time, grabs his dad and his second closest living relative, and they beat up the bad guys and save the day.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#46108: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:42:04 PM

Like, it'd be lame as hell if Trunks couldn't resolve his own story arc and would only reinforce the complaints about Super is the "Goku and Vegeta" show.

But if Trunks actually manages to win, he gets labelled a Mary Sue who gets random power ups to justify his importance.

Unless you rewrite the entire arc, it's a lose-lose situation that leaves nobody satisfied. So you know how you solve this? Fuck the haters, I didn't mind this episode despite...how...over the top it was in certain areas.

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#46109: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:43:28 PM

[up]Maybe Gogeta/Trunks combined attack? That way everybody's happy and the ending is 10x cooler

edited 12th Nov '16 7:43:48 PM by AlphaVII

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#46110: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:44:09 PM

[up][up]But Trunks getting random power-ups is something that actually happened.

edited 12th Nov '16 7:44:17 PM by hardcorefakes

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46111: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:45:38 PM

And they were all pretty bad from what the anime explained them as.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#46112: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:56:46 PM

That's what I mean, nobody is satisfied with either outcome and would still complain no matter what. So I'm just gonna focus on what I enjoy while acknowledging the flaw. Because let's be honest, Dragon Ball as a whole is dumb as fuck, it's up to you to choose whether that drags it down or not.

Like yea, I will wholly admit a lot of things in this arc are poorly explained and not focused on, as well as some pacing issues. But the fights were hype, and we got a cool villain out of it. If it entertained me, then it succeeded in my eyes.

If you weren't entertained and basically have nothing but contempt for this arc and Super as a whole...then (shrug), sorry to hear that.

edited 12th Nov '16 7:58:02 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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#46113: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:57:03 PM

I'm fucking dissapointed.

Seriously, fuck this. I can accept Trunks defeating Zamasu, hell, I can accept the padding, but making the Potara fusion Not Permanent?

Fucking BULLSHIT! If you were going to waste everybody time, bring Gogeta and get it over it!

This bullshit is ripping off three Dragon Ball out-of-manga plots:

> Bio Broly

> Spirit Bomb Goku from Android 13

> SSJ 4 Gogeta without the laughs

I'M pissed, and I should have expected it from Toei. FUCK IT. Let's see if the manga can make this shit works.

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edited 12th Nov '16 7:59:58 PM by Tomodachi

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#46114: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:58:58 PM

[up] You do realize Toriyama is giving Toei and Toyotaro the notes for the series, right?

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#46115: Nov 12th 2016 at 7:59:53 PM

Guess that's what happens when a 20 year old franchise gets revived, fleshed out stuff gets lashed at. Serious business and everything.

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#46116: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:01:15 PM

[up][up] Yes, he did the same with GT.

That's why i'm pissed, I was hoping Toei learned from GT mistakes. And they sorta did... until that damn retcon.

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#46117: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:01:16 PM

[up][up]Fleshed out? What?

edited 12th Nov '16 8:01:22 PM by AlphaVII

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#46118: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:03:27 PM

I don't really see why it's a big deal. The permanent fusion thing ended up never mattering anyway. Of course, I don't see why it needed to be retconned in the first place but meh.

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#46119: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:06:06 PM

You didn't need to retcon the Potara. It's been established in Super that you could just wish them apart. It's an entirely pointless, superfluous retcon that wasn't needed and doesn't enhance the story. It's there just so Trunks can get the final hit in.

Again, just wait for the manga.

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#46120: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:07:16 PM

[up] Because 1) The character is a huge darkhorse in the fandom 2) it makes the fusion less unique. Without the permanent thingy, Veggeto is just Gogeta with 30 more minutes.

And Besides, being permanent is a HUGE risk, and the main reason why isn't used in the first place. Making it not permanent kills the tension, and just make it a cheap power up instead of a dangerous tool.

edited 12th Nov '16 8:09:42 PM by Tomodachi

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46121: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:08:44 PM

It seems like the retcon was done to remove fusion, either form, as a viable option.

AlphaVII Mecha and Waifu, become one! from A part of the endless starry sky Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#46122: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:09:03 PM

Honestly the fact that Gogeta was only needed to soften up Zamasu for Trunks to end him plotwise was a real letdown, especially after we just now got to see him after all these years.

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#46123: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:09:12 PM

It can be undone with a wish, therefore it isn't dangerous either way.

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#46125: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:09:36 PM

So this is the first episode of Super I watched because I really wanted to see SSJB Vegeto in action. This was... really disappointing. Not only was Vegeto nowhere near as entertaining as he was back in his original appearance and the retcon to the Potara fusion really BS, the way Zamasu died was really stupid. I mean, how was that even remotely powerful enough to kill Zamasu? How did that even happen? That was pure Deus ex Machina. Not only did Trunks somehow keep up with and kill an opponent that required Vegeto but he did so with a technique he pulled right from his ass. There's just no way in hell that Trunks' Spirit Bomb Sword thing, which is only being powered by maybe a couple thousand humans at best, could do anything of significance to Zamasu. This is just... so retarded that I don't have the words for it.

At least it looked pretty.

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