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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45926: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:08:58 PM

Piccolo came out knowing and accepting what his lot in life was.

Why wouldn't his children be the same?

Okay, that's unfair, but it's not like they'll disappear - they'll just be a part of a greater whole.

And that's why we should all be absorbed into Majin Buu.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45927: Nov 9th 2016 at 1:12:12 PM

They totally would disappear. Nail's consciousness completely faded away and technically both Kami/God and Piccolo ceased to be when they fused.Him still going by Piccolo is mostly for convenience, or at least it was.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45928: Nov 9th 2016 at 2:01:08 PM

I'm speaking symbolically.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
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#45929: Nov 9th 2016 at 10:48:02 PM

Has it ever been made clear why the Saiyan race is Always Chaotic Evil? I first assumed that it was genetic, but the ones from Universe 6 are the same species yet Always Lawful Good. Is it related to how their homeworld's fate?

Also, is it confirmed whether Freeza's race is canonically Always Chaotic Evil. Canonically we've only seen two other non-Freeza members; his father and Universe 6 counterpart. Maybe its only his family that's evil. Indeed, with the knowledge that he's a hybrid I wonder if there's actually a Freeza Race or its just a description for hybrids

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#45930: Nov 10th 2016 at 12:57:06 AM

It's more that King Cold was a mutant, passed the mutant gene down to Freeza, and far in the future, any people related to Freeza are 'Freeza race' because King Cold and Freeza were so drastically different from whatever King Cold's ancestors were that they qualified as a separate species.

Also, I have toyed before with the idea of Piccolo spitting out a son to join Pan, Bra, and Uub on their adventures as the next generation.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45931: Nov 10th 2016 at 6:53:58 AM

Has it ever been made clear why the Saiyan race is Always Chaotic Evil? I first assumed that it was genetic, but the ones from Universe 6 are the same species yet Always Lawful Good. Is it related to how their homeworld's fate?

No, no you're thinking the pre-Minus badass Saiyans.

Minus confirms that not all of them were rogues who liked fighting and fracking. Gine, as well as Tarble, are examples. Even Bardock isn't that bad of a guy. Goku and Vegeta were chaotic evil but obviously flipped to the other side of the chart thanks to Goku suffering brain damage as an infant, and Vegeta Captain Shepherd'ing the richest woman on Earth.

If you do count Broly then he's a mutation that went horribly insane. Paragus was obviously concerned for him at one point. Given that, and King Vegeta's obvious care for his son's wellbeing, not all of them are Chaotic Evil. Turles... well, he's just kind of a dick.

Why are all the Saiyans evil violent? They were born with bodies built for combat, so that's what they excelled at. As infants that could just be their personality. They're sent to other planets with the instruction, "Kill everything that moves." so that's basically programming them for the rest of their lives. And their bodies transform into giant apes when they look at the moon. Violence is just a part of who they are, biologically, mentally.

The better question is why the Saiyans from Universe 6 didn't turn out that way. Maybe because Freeza didn't conquer them they didn't become Conan-esque used planet salesmen. Maybe because King Vegeta didn't come to power and didn't lead a revolution against the Tuffles with the intent to Make The Planet-Soon-To-Be-Named Vegeta Great Again.

But I'm content Hand Wave'ing it as multiverse theory at work - on one Planet Earth Vegeta, the Saiyans were violent, on another they weren't. In one universe Freeza is a galactic tyrant, in another he's a galactic hero.

There's no absolute reason other than the Saiyans evolved differently.

edited 10th Nov '16 7:18:07 AM by Soble

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#45932: Nov 10th 2016 at 7:00:58 AM

The Saiyans are like The Krogan in Mass Effect, they had to be warriors to live in the harsh environments, once they got (uplifted?) to space the culture continued. And well Frieza exploited that for his own ends until they had potentially turned.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#45933: Nov 10th 2016 at 7:11:41 AM

[up][up]Great, now I'm reminded of Dragon Ball Minus.....sigh

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45934: Nov 10th 2016 at 7:19:48 AM

I'm just glad Xenoverse 2 used Bardock: Father of Goku and made a cool intro out of it. And amused that Bardock has now been saved from death by time travel twice. The man is such an Ensemble Dark Horse the timeline refuses to let him die.

[up](2) I only know enough about Mass Effect to make fun of Vegeta going from space pirate to family man. :(

edited 10th Nov '16 7:31:05 AM by Soble

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#45935: Nov 10th 2016 at 7:24:04 AM

They are still violent in U6, they just direct that violence at villains.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#45936: Nov 10th 2016 at 7:30:32 AM

[up][up] It's all backstory and not a spoiler.

Well the Krogan are a race of warriors who evolved on a planet literally out to kill them, they are literally near the bottom of the food chain. So they evolved where a single couple could produce 100 kids in a single pregnancy as 99 of those kids will be killed by everything else in the world including skyscraper sized worms and such.

They were uplifted by The Council (The Federation) giving them the tech to fight an insect race that was really bad, once off planet though their population exploded and their warrior culture started an even worse war with The Council after the bugs were dead. It resulted in The Council sterilizing as vast majority of the remaining population.. after they nuked the hell out of their planet in the war IE the Frieza method.

edited 10th Nov '16 7:32:58 AM by Memers

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45937: Nov 10th 2016 at 7:33:22 AM

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Oh yeah...

Well, I guess that narrows it down. Not having a "Freeza" made the Saiyans into relatively decent people.

Well the Krogan are a race of warriors who evolved on a planet literally out to kill them, they are literally near the bottom of the food chain. So they evolved where a single couple could produce 100 kids in a single pregnancy as 99 of those kids will be killed by everything else in the world including skyscraper sized worms and such.

...o_o

That's terrifying and depressing.

I can see the similarity but the Saiyans, far as I know, were the top of the food chain before Frieza. Not that we ever learned much about their world or any of its dangers, but the Saiyans were numerous enough that Frieza decided to kill them off before they got too strong.

edited 10th Nov '16 7:36:12 AM by Soble

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#45938: Nov 10th 2016 at 7:44:04 AM

That's pretty much every r strategist species ever; it feels horrifying to us K strategists, as it is the opposite strategy. But remember that capitalism works under the same principles as the r strategy; it is no coincidence that both CE Os have more sociopaths than average, and that intelligent r strategists tend to be individualistic assholes (squids are horrifying).

Remember that both strategies exist, and don't indulge in anthropomorphization where it doesn't really belong.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#45939: Nov 10th 2016 at 8:52:01 AM

Seems like Zamlack is the strongest non Beerus opponent so far.

Guess Beerus really will be the raising ceiling of Super.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#45943: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:36:57 AM

At this rate, Gine will get Super Saiyan before Pan does.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#45945: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:39:57 AM

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No she won't.

I'm sure they'll come up with a reason not to give it to her either....if they bother.

I'm assuming they must have thought Note was a boy somehow.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#45946: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:41:14 AM

I need SSJ3 Raditz. My life will not be complete unless I see it.

Unless that is what the image is. I can't really tell.

edited 10th Nov '16 9:42:55 AM by LordVatek

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#45948: Nov 10th 2016 at 10:03:13 AM

I'm wondering if Vegetto will surpass Beerus' true strength. If SSB 10x Kaioken Goku is enough for him to go "wtf", adding that to the broken fusion should surpass even him. Plus they can always say "well Vegetto is two people in one, so it don't count" to keep Beerus and Whis on the top of the U7 pecking order

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#45950: Nov 10th 2016 at 10:29:37 AM

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