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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#45626: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:52:56 PM

A human so smart she once broke the space-time continuum and stepped into the realm of the gods through sheer brainpower.

Hell, come to think of it, Dr. Gero created a being that could've shitstomped the Supreme Kai, thus killing Beerus and effectively becoming the strongest being in the universe had Cell beat Gohan.

Humans may not be very powerful in the Dragon Ball universe, but human brainpower is fucking scary.

edited 3rd Nov '16 7:55:41 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#45627: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:56:47 PM

I wouldn't put it past her to be the smartest being in existence. Like, Zuno is more knowledgeable, and her wisdom isn't spectacular, but her actual intelligence just might outstrip everyone else's.

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#45628: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:57:44 PM

But is she as smart as Reed Richards, but not as useless?

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#45629: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:00:52 PM

Okay, Pushover, Saiga, you probably already know I was wrong but let me clear it up in case there are lingering doubts.

In Xenoverse, there is a Z soul or something attributed to Tien that makes a character immune to Kamehameha variations. I assumed this was a reference to Tien deflecting one and for some reason came to the idea that he and Tao Pai Pai were immune to the move.

Reading the relevant chapters over again reveals that only was no special technique used or immunity mention on Tien's part but Jackie Chun went on to deflect Tien's Kamehameha in a similar manner.

But that raises the question of why sparring with Tien makes you immune to Kamehameha variations? Flanderization in effect?

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#45630: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:06:29 PM

Roshi just held out his hands and deflected Temshinhan's shitty, unpracticed Kamehameha, no special technique necessary. Actually, if not for the Fan Wank that Tenshinhan is somehow immune to the Kamehameha, a Ki enhanced Kiai that deflects Supers and can be charged to deflect Ultimates could be a really cool Super/Evasive move in Xenoverse.

edited 3rd Nov '16 8:09:54 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#45631: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:09:17 PM

Guys, guys, I have an honest to goodness question.

In a hypothetical battle between Senator Armstrong, against Hercule and Yamcha, who would win?

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#45632: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:11:08 PM

Hercule dies, Yamcha blows him to kingdom come; do people not remember that technically every ki using human barring Roshi and Videl could blow up the entire planet at this point?

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#45634: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:13:13 PM

Never played Metal Gear, so I don't know how strong he is. I should say that Hercule and Yamcha are nowhere near the same level, so I don't know why you put them on a team. Like, Hercule might be comparable to Yamcha in his first appearance, but that's about it.

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#45636: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:18:40 PM

I mean, Cell was probably suppressed for most of that, otherwise you have Goku being able to somehow match someone stronger than Super Perfect Cell as a Super Saiyan.

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#45637: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:22:28 PM

I choose the weakest Z fighter, and the Champ!

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#45638: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:25:54 PM

I am loathe to admit it, but I'd give it to Yamcha. We don't have an accurate measure of his power after being Saibaman'd, but I'd assume he's at least planet-buster tier like everybody else.

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#45639: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:27:45 PM

There's no real reason for him not to be, and there are actual numbers that clearly show him at least being a moon buster.

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#45640: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:29:52 PM

That's assuming the Galick Gun really is a planet buster, which we obviously never saw.

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#45641: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:32:03 PM

I choose the weakest Z fighter, and the Champ!

Then you should have chosen Chiaotzu who is far weaker than Yamcha, and still leagues above Mr. Satan. Honestly, outside of bad jokes, I don't understand how this is supposed to be a real question.

At the same time, Hercule should be far stronger than when we first meet Yamcha.

edited 3rd Nov '16 8:32:31 PM by LSBK

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#45642: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:35:00 PM

But I don't like Chiaotzu :c

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#45643: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:35:46 PM

[up][up][up] There's no reason to assume it isn't.

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#45644: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:47:18 PM

There is one reason to assume it isn't - and that's the fact that it didn't.

However, a much, much, much weaker attack did blow up the moon, so it's not outside the realm of probability.

Anyway, there's nothing that sets up Yamcha as a planet buster. He is definitely a Mountain/Moon Buster since he is stronger than Radditz, but other than that, we have no real measure of his power.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45645: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:58:57 PM

Senator Armstrong can make this guy look like a total b'tch.

No telling if nanomachines react to energy attacks, but since Yamcha typically does hand to hand he'd lose that battle.

Ki blades are fine, but a Ki scythe is too much?

Didn't care for that either, but at least that had some precedent because we saw Vegito use it. Swords are all elegant and jazz, I could see a superpowered alien warrior coming up with such a thing. A Ki Scythe? That sounds like something a fan would come up with to make their OC Xenoverse character st... it would make for a good unique special in Xenoverse, but it looks odd anywhere else. Scythes aren't very practical weapons anyway. RWBY aside how many other scythe-wielding characters are there in battle anime? That someone would take the effort to conjure one out of spiritual energy says they really want to come off as intimidating.

At least the sword was hard to predict and put a Goku-sized hole in Vegeta's ribs, adding insult to injury.

I would classify laser-clone scythe as ridiculous and funny stupid.

This too. If Black hadn't said "I don't know what this does," I would've thought the scythe was completely weird. That even he doesn't know what it does makes it funny.

I'm going to laugh if the scythe thing is in the manga too. Like Toriyama specifically sent to notes to both sides saying "Goku Black creates a scythe made of energy and cuts a hole between dimensions, summoning several clones of himself. This is very important."

I'd laugh.

Ugh.

edited 3rd Nov '16 9:12:47 PM by Soble

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#45646: Nov 3rd 2016 at 9:09:53 PM

Filler Yamcha shits on Namek Saga Freeza.

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#45647: Nov 3rd 2016 at 9:10:37 PM

I actually liked the clone thing. >.>

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#45648: Nov 3rd 2016 at 9:18:31 PM

[up][up] Filler Yamcha also shits on everything up to 50% Cell probably.

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#45650: Nov 3rd 2016 at 11:01:06 PM

Extremely unreasonable. Especially for a 2/3 year development period.

Ignoring transformations you have 175 characters, which is unmanagebly high, and adding CAC and transformations on top of that is extreme.

If I may make a suggestion to help trim it down at least a little bit, maybe drop the 'majin' forms and instead just make the majin 'M' a character accessory?

edited 3rd Nov '16 11:01:52 PM by Anomalocaris20

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