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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#45451: Oct 28th 2016 at 6:03:13 PM

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"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#45452: Oct 28th 2016 at 6:46:38 PM

[up] This seems fair enough. Toyotaro was implying maybe he was making Black's reveal a little different in the manga. But this is Toei officially saying "This is how the timelines work in the anime, at least". So if it still doesn't make sense...I guess Toei doesn't know how to write or something.

edited 28th Oct '16 6:46:56 PM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#45453: Oct 29th 2016 at 2:17:05 AM

[up] Can't say I'm surprised.

On the topic of Super, who is watching it on Crunchyroll now that it's available?

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#45454: Oct 29th 2016 at 4:07:38 AM

Oh good, we finally have the official breakdown of the timelines.

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#45455: Oct 29th 2016 at 4:35:04 AM

About that timeline explanation... I can't read Japanese, but the graph layout implies Black really does come from an entirely separate timeline, which is good

On the other hand, if I put some of the text on Google Translate, it instead implies that this other timeline is born from Beerus killing Zamasu (despite this not being supported by the graph layout). Since that explanation doesn't really make sense, and since the picture avoids detailed explanations in the first place, I'm just going to assume the translation is faulty.

edited 29th Oct '16 4:35:48 AM by JonnasN

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#45456: Oct 29th 2016 at 4:39:25 AM

Oh wait, of course that makes sense! Black wearing the Time Ring didn't remove him from causality, it split the timelines in response to Beerus killing present Zamasu!

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#45457: Oct 29th 2016 at 6:01:15 PM

XV 2's plot isn't as good as XV 1's. Hopefully Towa isn't dead. Still a lotta shit they can do with her, if Dragonball Heroes is anything to go by. Mira can go though. Not that he was an awful character; his arc is just complete. Also, his transformation is a much better design here than in Heroes.

XV 2 also has the most fucking obnoxious end credits of any game I've played.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#45458: Oct 29th 2016 at 6:11:44 PM

Now for this week's episode!

So yeah, apparently when they said that the Power of ANGER made Saiyan's stronger, it's apparently literal, or apparently Black thinks so. So by his logic, if the ANGER of the Saiyans made them stronger, what more if it's a god's ANGER? Well... Yeah, Black uses all that angst that's apparently boiling inside him AGAINST MORTALS to power up his ki blade into a... Ki scythe? Which he then uses to open a wound in reality. That's where all those clone Blacks come from, a literal wound in existence.

In any case, because of the never-ending stream of Black clones (who are basically just smoke, but boy are there a LOT of him), Zamasu is free to attack Trunks, Bulma and Mai. But don't fret, because Bulma forces Trunks to learn the Mafuba. After a lot of Ginyu Force posing... It apparently works? Zamasu is trapped in the jar! Yay... Except Goku forgot the sacred seal from Master Roshi.

So Zamasu breaks free, but now he's in a panic. And since Black felt Zamasu's ki vanish for a short bit, he teleports over to see Zamasu reacting in a "Well, FSK" manner. So they fuse, because, no more playing around yeah?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#45459: Oct 29th 2016 at 6:28:02 PM

[up]

HE FUCKING FORGOT THE TAG! ARE YOU GOD DAMN KIDDING ME!? GOKU! YOU DUMB ASS!

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#45460: Oct 29th 2016 at 7:43:04 PM

Trunks using the Mafuba was really cool and it worked too. Too bad they didn't have the tag.

Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#45461: Oct 29th 2016 at 7:51:07 PM

With the exception of Roshi's master, a hero using the Mafuba always will fail in some form. Trunks succeeded, but it was fruitless in the end because Goku's an idiot.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#45462: Oct 29th 2016 at 7:53:29 PM

Pretty much yeah.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45463: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:06:32 PM

Technically, Roshi's master failed too. Piccolo got out. Eventually.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45464: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:12:28 PM

[up] How is someone else stupidly letting Piccolo out hundreds of years after the man himself is dead his failing?

edited 29th Oct '16 8:13:22 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45465: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:20:49 PM

He didn't make it foolproof.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45466: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:29:20 PM

That doesn't follow. Saying he failed is like saying Trunks failed to kill Frieza just because the guy got brought back to life several years later.

edited 29th Oct '16 8:30:40 PM by LSBK

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#45467: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:32:49 PM

Jesus. That sounds like something abridged Goku would do.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#45468: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:41:31 PM

Right, so despite how legitimately mad I am at Goku, the actual moment with the sealing was pretty cool. It was certainly enough to make Zamasu actually freak out.

I really hate that a lot of the tension comes from the heroes Goku does something stupid rather then anything with the villains. It doesn't help that this whole arc is essentially his fault....again.

I swear, if Toriyama didn't put in Goku and Vegeta getting their heads out of their asses and becoming Vegetto, I'm gonna riot. Nobody want's a Rob Riot. Nobody.

edited 29th Oct '16 8:41:44 PM by HandsomeRob

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#45469: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:43:17 PM

Bulma... THAT was your plan!?

Isn't she getting a bit old for that to really work anymore (if it ever did in the first place)?

On the other hand, Fused Zamasu looks badass as hell. Or should I say heaven considering he's a god?

edited 29th Oct '16 8:44:12 PM by DarkHunter

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#45470: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:44:17 PM

[up]

Yeah. I was wondering about that as well.

That would have been a shitty plan no matter what.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#45471: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:45:08 PM

Yeah, no. I'm calling bullshit on Trunks learning the Mafuba from a video of Piccolo doing it, in 50 SECONDS, and performing it perfectly!!!

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#45472: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:49:46 PM

[up]

Most everyone has learned the Mafuba from watching someone else do it. It seems to be rather easy to learn. In fact, Goku seems to be the only one who had to train to do it. That might be more due to Rule of Funny though.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#45473: Oct 29th 2016 at 8:56:18 PM

I am thinking Roshi is a fault for forgetting the Ofuda not Goku. Bulma could have ran to her shop and wrote one out though lol, that is likely what's going to end up happening I bet.

Also I hope that they bring back the rice cooker gag after the pot gets atomized, cause you know it will.

edited 29th Oct '16 8:56:51 PM by Memers

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45474: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:27:27 PM

So Mira just went SSJ 4. This is fucking hilarious. Also, he managed to kill me once because I was too distracted, because he looks freaking ridiculous.

Incidentally, for those that don't have Xenoverse 2 yet: Don't focus on Ki Supers. Every enemy will do exactly the same thing the very instant you try to fire a Ki Blast at them that takes longer than a second to launch: Instantly appear behind you and break your guard with a charged heavy attack.

This seriously needs to get patched out, you should not be able to break people out of ultimates this ridiculously easily, especially when you consider how easy it already is to dodge most of them. It's annoying as balls.

edited 29th Oct '16 9:29:34 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#45475: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:29:21 PM

Yeah, Ki supers are much harder to use in this game. Thankfully I had planned to run with a Strike Super character this time around anyways.


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