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A lot of people are asking about the Stable Time Loop: how Zamasu and Goku fought in the first place to create Black?
The answer is, a sadly, don't think about it. Is sadly a cliche in these kind of stories that the original event is always the most confusing, so time travel stories don't worry that much about it. Remember Dexter's lab movie? Something like at the end where Dexter decided to not worry about it.
Future Zamasu personality however it is kinda puzzling. I could understand him hating humans, nothing changed, but why does he want to fight Goku? He never met him. Was he simply bored and wanted to have a little fight, or Black-zu show him with the time ring the events?
edited 11th Oct '16 11:47:57 AM by Tomodachi
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.I think Black's mere presence explains why Future Zamasu wants to fight and kill Goku. Here's a version of himself who resorted to steal a mortal's body and destroy his own to become as strong as he can. We saw how Zamasu reacted when he was beaten by Goku. I'm sure he was shocked when they talked about it.
That's a good point. We have to assume that, in the original flow of events, Goku eventually fought Zamasu for an entirely different reason. Black causes his own origin in the sequence of events we see, but those events had already been altered by time travel - we don't know what the original reason for the fight was, and Black probably wouldn't know the difference in why anyway.
And its possible, given Goku's personality. Maybe he was hanging out with Beerus and Whis and they mentioned a particularly strong Kaioshin from another universe, and he bugged them about it so much that they took him on a meet and greet. A fight Goku assumed was just a friendly match ensued, and we know the rest.
It would also explain why Goku is more confused than anything when Zamasu takes his body. And why nobody had gone to the trouble of trying to stop Zamasu at first - nobody knew to be suspicious of him.
edited 11th Oct '16 3:15:07 PM by KnownUnknown
This is what hurts my head, but as far as I can tell: Zamasu turning into Black was a Stable Time Loop, until Beerus killed Zamasu and ended the time loop, except Black still exists because he's removed from causality. All the events up to Beerus killing Black still happened for Black, except he became Black instead of dying to Beerus. As to why Beerus didn't kill Zamasu before he turned into Black in the first place, he did. There's no way to logic your way around it because that's kind of the point. Black is literally a walking time paradox, and questioning it any further is a lost cause.
"People think of time as a strict progression from cause to effect, but from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's really more like a big ball of... wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey... stuff."
-Some dude with questionable doctorate credentials
edited 11th Oct '16 4:15:06 PM by DarkHunter
Just realized XV 2 will be the first time Black will be dubbed in English....I for one cannot wait to hear Sean Schemmel as an evil Goku.
edited 11th Oct '16 9:41:46 PM by BlackYakuzu94
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.On a side note, and probably just the anons messing out, a lot of people in 4chan seems to hate Mai because they can't ship Pan with Trunks now.
Silly anons, that's a different Trunks.
Silly anons.
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.They still can...they don't need an excuse to hate a character.
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I don't exactly like his mutated Super Saiyan 2 form, but in the grand scheme of things it won't matter when fighting Black and Zamasu.