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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#44826: Oct 11th 2016 at 8:10:45 AM

I don't exactly like his mutated Super Saiyan 2 form, but in the grand scheme of things it won't matter when fighting Black and Zamasu.

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#44828: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:24:09 AM

[up] Savage!

A lot of people are asking about the Stable Time Loop: how Zamasu and Goku fought in the first place to create Black?

The answer is, a sadly, don't think about it. Is sadly a cliche in these kind of stories that the original event is always the most confusing, so time travel stories don't worry that much about it. Remember Dexter's lab movie? Something like at the end where Dexter decided to not worry about it.

Future Zamasu personality however it is kinda puzzling. I could understand him hating humans, nothing changed, but why does he want to fight Goku? He never met him. Was he simply bored and wanted to have a little fight, or Black-zu show him with the time ring the events?

edited 11th Oct '16 11:47:57 AM by Tomodachi

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Majinangelo Since: Oct, 2015
#44829: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:48:05 AM

I think Black's mere presence explains why Future Zamasu wants to fight and kill Goku. Here's a version of himself who resorted to steal a mortal's body and destroy his own to become as strong as he can. We saw how Zamasu reacted when he was beaten by Goku. I'm sure he was shocked when they talked about it.

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#44830: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:00:15 PM

Do you think those two will fuse?

I'm going to prepare some Steven Universe jokes if that happens.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#44831: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:13:14 PM

Upcoming episode spoilers hinted at such.

Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
Fate, guide me
#44832: Oct 11th 2016 at 1:38:35 PM

At this rate, even a Vegito/Gogeta won't cut it :p

I mean, they'll have the mafuba but damn son.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#44833: Oct 11th 2016 at 3:12:46 PM

A lot of people are asking about the Stable Time Loop: how Zamasu and Goku fought in the first place to create Black?

That's a good point. We have to assume that, in the original flow of events, Goku eventually fought Zamasu for an entirely different reason. Black causes his own origin in the sequence of events we see, but those events had already been altered by time travel - we don't know what the original reason for the fight was, and Black probably wouldn't know the difference in why anyway.

And its possible, given Goku's personality. Maybe he was hanging out with Beerus and Whis and they mentioned a particularly strong Kaioshin from another universe, and he bugged them about it so much that they took him on a meet and greet. A fight Goku assumed was just a friendly match ensued, and we know the rest.

It would also explain why Goku is more confused than anything when Zamasu takes his body. And why nobody had gone to the trouble of trying to stop Zamasu at first - nobody knew to be suspicious of him.

edited 11th Oct '16 3:15:07 PM by KnownUnknown

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#44834: Oct 11th 2016 at 3:29:41 PM

This is what hurts my head, but as far as I can tell: Zamasu turning into Black was a Stable Time Loop, until Beerus killed Zamasu and ended the time loop, except Black still exists because he's removed from causality. All the events up to Beerus killing Black still happened for Black, except he became Black instead of dying to Beerus. As to why Beerus didn't kill Zamasu before he turned into Black in the first place, he did. There's no way to logic your way around it because that's kind of the point. Black is literally a walking time paradox, and questioning it any further is a lost cause.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#44835: Oct 11th 2016 at 4:14:51 PM

"People think of time as a strict progression from cause to effect, but from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's really more like a big ball of... wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey... stuff."

-Some dude with questionable doctorate credentials

edited 11th Oct '16 4:15:06 PM by DarkHunter

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#44836: Oct 11th 2016 at 9:41:33 PM

Just realized XV 2 will be the first time Black will be dubbed in English....I for one cannot wait to hear Sean Schemmel as an evil Goku.

edited 11th Oct '16 9:41:46 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#44837: Oct 11th 2016 at 9:43:22 PM

And depending on the DLC, we might get voices for Hit, Cabba, Frost, Champa and Vados.

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#44838: Oct 12th 2016 at 7:42:05 AM

Good, we're going to hear the voices of Space Golgo 13, Not-Tarble, Nicer Frieza, Fat Beerus, female Whis, and Blaczu.

Can't wait!

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#44840: Oct 12th 2016 at 7:57:34 AM

What, no anticipation for Botamo and Magetta's voices?

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#44841: Oct 12th 2016 at 8:04:46 AM

I actually do hope they give Hit Patrick Seitz's voice.

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#44843: Oct 12th 2016 at 9:52:14 AM

I always knew Goku driving lessons were plot relevant.

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#44844: Oct 12th 2016 at 10:29:13 AM

On a side note, and probably just the anons messing out, a lot of people in 4chan seems to hate Mai because they can't ship Pan with Trunks now.

Silly anons, that's a different Trunks.

Silly anons.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
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#44845: Oct 12th 2016 at 10:32:41 AM

They still can...they don't need an excuse to hate a character.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#44846: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:20:11 PM

You know I thought just dawned on me that we don't really know much of Xenoverse 2's story beyond the Frieza Saga. That's interesting.

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#44847: Oct 12th 2016 at 2:47:55 PM

[up] And the main story itself has some twists as early as the Saiyan saga.

For example, Turles intercepting Goku and having to fight both Vegeta and Nappa as Great Apes.

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#44848: Oct 12th 2016 at 3:12:06 PM

Shipping Pan with Trunks (or Bra with Goten) is just really gross, considering Trunks was either 22 or 27 in GT, and Pan was either 10 or 15 (for Goten and Bra, go down 1 year), respectively, depending on translation.

edited 12th Oct '16 3:14:00 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#44849: Oct 12th 2016 at 3:37:59 PM

[up] My dad is eleven years older than my mom. What's one more year?

Not that I ship them since I don't really ship anyone in Dragon Ball.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#44850: Oct 12th 2016 at 3:49:58 PM

....How old are your parents?

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