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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#44776: Oct 9th 2016 at 3:35:17 PM

The SSJB Kaioken could very likely screw up and kill Goku. Plus, he's in a situation where raw power won't cut it. Zamasu will regenerate from whatever is thrown at him and Black will always get stronger.

It's almost like going back with no plan was an awful idea.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#44777: Oct 9th 2016 at 3:39:14 PM

I know that Goku did not spare Freeza because he was merciful and virtuous.

Get this through your head: I am not saying that Goku doesn't get angry, I am not saying he's ultra virtuous or anything of the sort.

I'm saying that Goku has not, not once, gone berserk. And I have no doubt that, had Freeza made a legitimate face turn after getting spared, Goku would've accepted him into his circle of people he likes to fight.

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Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
Fate, guide me
#44778: Oct 9th 2016 at 3:39:53 PM

"Vegeta. Let's punch them hard."

"Well shit they punch harder than us. Let's go back in."

"They punch even harder. Trunks, go punch them pliz."

I really do enjoy this saga though. It has good animations, the story is pretty damn dark and there's the sense of dread that was absent during the earlier arc.

edited 9th Oct '16 3:40:38 PM by Bolded1

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#44779: Oct 9th 2016 at 3:43:56 PM

Going after Tambourine with no plan whatsoever besides 'kill', the initial transformation into Super Saiyan, Goku tends to fly into a rage when his friends and family are hurt. It usually doesn't last very long, and it's effectiveness varies, but it still happens. It's just not some overblown anime enraged rampage where he's a threat to everyone around himself.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#44780: Oct 9th 2016 at 3:46:30 PM

Goku going after Tambourine with no plan besides "find and beat the shit out of him"? Gee, I wonder if that's how he approaches most of his problems...

edited 9th Oct '16 3:46:39 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#44781: Oct 9th 2016 at 3:49:27 PM

Out of anger, not out of carelessness, like he usually does.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#44782: Oct 9th 2016 at 3:51:58 PM

So he acted... exactly how he would've acted anyway, he was just angry while doing it.

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#44783: Oct 9th 2016 at 3:58:25 PM

Is that much different from now?

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#44784: Oct 9th 2016 at 4:01:07 PM

Well, yeah. Goku doesn't turn into a different person when he's mad, he just gets pissed off. His ensuing rage and fury is still scary to whomever pissed him off, given his incredible power and fighting skill.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#44785: Oct 9th 2016 at 4:05:20 PM

On Future Zamasu not disappearing he has a time ring as well.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#44786: Oct 9th 2016 at 4:20:53 PM

No, that's because he's the one from Trunks' timeline. No connection whatsoever to the Zamasu Beerus killed, aside from having the same genetics.

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Fate, guide me
#44787: Oct 9th 2016 at 4:25:48 PM

I wonder how Black would react to a "good" Zamasu who's not dreaming up about killing mortals and such.

I mean, it'd be a pretty boring encounter but heh.

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#44788: Oct 9th 2016 at 4:41:18 PM

Do we really need this argument?

Not that I'm one to judge people on arguments that have gone on way too long.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#44789: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:08:52 PM

[up][up]"Have you tried killing people? It's hella fun".

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#44790: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:59:59 PM

As mentioned, Zamasu/Goku Black went beyond It's Personal. He used Goku's own body to murder his wife and son. The last thing they saw alive was their loved one ripping them in half. Not even Freeza did that.

If any relief to this Nightmare Fuel can be given, it's that thanks to Beerus the destruction Goku Black brought amongst the main timeline didn't happen. The only reason Goku Black still exists is because of that time ring. Of course, his sins in other timelines still happened.

Of course, this raises the question of if he needs to keep wearing the time ring in order to still exist. Granted it'd been really hard to remove it from his finger, but that could be the Achilles' Heel he has.

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#44791: Oct 10th 2016 at 4:16:10 PM

If Goku's actions remind me of anything, it's the Kaioken X20 against Freeza. You know, where he has that whole speech about how he's going to defeat him for the Earth and Chi-Chi?

...although now looking this up, it looks like that speech was an anime-only thing. But then again, so was this thing in Super.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#44792: Oct 10th 2016 at 5:17:52 PM

I'm still wondering why Zamasu is taking his merry time killing off mortals.

Instead of sipping tea on a patio, he should be cutting fools down.

Else it's going to be a long time before his zero mortals plan is fully complete. He's got plenty of planets to go, in plenty of universes. But he's just dicking around for no reason.

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#44793: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:00:17 PM

Maybe he wants to savor the experience. No real need to worry about time when you're immortal.

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#44794: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:05:43 PM

Indeed. Zamasu wants to savor their suffering and he is similar to Freiza in that regard.

"Mai waifu."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#44795: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:06:06 PM

Black isn't immortal though.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
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#44796: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:11:29 PM

But he can readily fuse for eternity with someone who is.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#44797: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:56:34 PM

Steven Universe paints a pretty picture, but I don't think Black and Zamasu love each other that much.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#44798: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:57:18 PM

Aren't they the same person? If there's anyone Zamasu loves, I'd assume it was himself.

edited 10th Oct '16 7:26:35 PM by LSBK

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#44799: Oct 10th 2016 at 7:24:25 PM

Well, according to spoilers: that's exactly what happens.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#44800: Oct 10th 2016 at 8:28:56 PM

I mean, they DID say they had wiped out mortals on a few planets before this, right? Although this episode was implying they were savouring their time on Earth just to draw out Trunks's suffering, as a way of punishing him for abusing time-travel to change history.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!

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