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sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4452: Feb 1st 2014 at 12:39:40 PM

Too bad Vegeta's children are tail-less hybrids, and can't transform into giant monkeys.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4453: Feb 1st 2014 at 12:45:07 PM

Gohan had a tail. Initially. Sometimes. It grew back at least once too. And he transformed at least twice. It was how they beat Vegeta actually.

The tail and transformation should be present in at least half-Saiyan hybrids.

I mean, we don't see Goten, Trunks or Bulla with it, but they could just keep removing it offscreen.

And shush. Adorable.

edited 1st Feb '14 12:47:58 PM by unnoun

sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4454: Feb 1st 2014 at 12:48:39 PM

No, Trunks, Bra, and Goten are never seen with tails and explicitly don't have them. The guidebooks explain that they're a different kind of hybrid compared to Gohan, and that's why they became Super Saiyans so young.

Nothing with Vegeta can be adorable.

edited 1st Feb '14 12:49:05 PM by sockpuppet1

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4455: Feb 1st 2014 at 12:51:01 PM

Screw the guide books.

...And different kind of hybrid makes less than no sense so screw anyone that thinks biology works that way. I mean, if it was a Tigon vs. Liger thing maybe, but Goku and Vegeta are both male Saiyans and Chi Chi and Bulma are both female humans and Gohan and Goten are brothers anyway.

And I know we never see them with tails but I don't think "explicitly don't have them" either. I think it was brought up and just sort of ignored at one point.

And Gohan was like ten when he went Super Saiyan the first time.

Five when Namek happened, then a year for Goku to come back, then three for androids, then a year in the time chamber.

And screw anything that dares to get in the way of my daily quota of adorableness.

edited 1st Feb '14 1:11:16 PM by unnoun

sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4456: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:10:44 PM

They're never seen with tails, them not having them is brought up in-story, and the guidebooks are just making sense of what Toriyama himself wrote (also, Toriyama himself said the guidebooks were well put together and accurate, soooo...). Biology doesn't work that way, but then again the saiyans already make no sense biologically, especially the stupid giant monkey transformation that creates matter out of nowhere. The difference was that Goku was a Super Saiyan when he had Goten, but not when he had Gohan. Because of this, Goten was born without a tail to let him jump to Super Saiyan quickly.

Yeah, and Goten was less than 7. And unlike Gohan, he didn't have any super special ROSAT training with his father, he just got that transformation while derping around with Trunks. That's because he's a tail-less hybrid.

The period between Goku and Freeza's battle and both of them coming to Earth was more like two years; specifically, one and two thirds of a year.

Nothing with a remorseless mass murderer who caused most of the problems in the series, including the death of his son, can be adorable.

edited 1st Feb '14 1:11:52 PM by sockpuppet1

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4457: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:12:18 PM

them not having them is brought up in-story

...I don't think it actually was.

And Trunks is older than Goten so his Super Saiyan thing was about Gohan's age.

Not counting the future stuff.

edited 1st Feb '14 1:13:46 PM by unnoun

sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4458: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:14:55 PM

I think Vegeta did.

No. Trunks got that form when he was less than eight (and it's implied to be a pretty decent time before then). Gohan got it when he was 10-11.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4459: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:21:51 PM

I'm pretty sure Vegeta didn't.

Two years isn't that big of a gap.

edited 1st Feb '14 1:22:07 PM by unnoun

sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4460: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:23:24 PM

It is when you consider that unlike Gohan, Trunks didn't actually do any training to get it. Also, the gap is bigger than two years, we just don't know by how much/

edited 1st Feb '14 1:23:40 PM by sockpuppet1

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#4461: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:24:00 PM

Vegeta beat the shit out of him from the time his bones finished developing, there's your training.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4462: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:28:51 PM

Vegeta spent most of his time in the Gravity thingy at Capsule Corp and apparently he'd have Trunks help him train in there.

sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4463: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:39:31 PM

If he were actually training Trunks that much, I doubt he'd be so shocked when Trunks revealed that he had the Super Saiyan transformation (and was incredibly powerful to boot).

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#4464: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:44:38 PM

Honestly, we could replace every instance of "Saiyan" in this series with "Spartan" and not a damn thing would change.

edited 1st Feb '14 1:44:57 PM by Ssj3Gojira

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4465: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:52:13 PM

The battle of Thermopylae didn't have nearly enough giant monkeys for my taste.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#4466: Feb 1st 2014 at 1:58:07 PM

There's no such thing as a "Super Sparta-jin"...

...is there?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#4467: Feb 1st 2014 at 2:02:23 PM

TONIGHT WE DINE IN HFIL!!!!!!!cool

That's right. I went there. And I have all of you to thank for it.tongue

edited 1st Feb '14 2:02:37 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#4468: Feb 1st 2014 at 2:02:33 PM

Not with THAT attitude, there isn't.

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sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4469: Feb 1st 2014 at 2:05:54 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] What? Yeah, many things would change.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#4470: Feb 1st 2014 at 2:10:57 PM

Frieza eradicated the Spartan race.

You... are the last... Spartan... oh god, you're the last Spartan.

Spartans grow stronger after every battle.

Spartans turn into giant monkeys during a full moon.

Spartans have tails?

Spartans are a warrior race who travel the stars in search of valuable worlds.

I AM THE SUPER SPARTAN, SON GOKU!

This is a Super Spartan. And this is a Super Spartan 2. And this... is to go... even further - beyond! (beat) Sorry that took so long. You can call this a Super Spartan 3.

edited 1st Feb '14 2:11:52 PM by FOFD

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#4471: Feb 1st 2014 at 2:45:28 PM

In the next mission of DBH, the main Saiyan heroes (Beat and Note) will gain Super Saiyan 3 forms.

Also, I heard that Toriyama gave a name to Goku's unknown mother: Gine.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#4472: Feb 1st 2014 at 2:48:51 PM

SUPER SAIYAN 3 FOR EVERYONE. ALREADY HAVE A SUPER SAIYAN 3? GET A SUPER SAIYAN 4! ALREADY SUPER SAIYAN 4? HAVE A SUPER SAIYAN GOD!

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4473: Feb 1st 2014 at 2:49:11 PM

Up next: Super Saiyan God 2.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#4474: Feb 1st 2014 at 2:50:13 PM

And it'll still be completely powerless against Bills, because...fuck, I don't know. God, Battle of the Gods pisses me off so much.

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sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4475: Feb 1st 2014 at 2:51:44 PM

BOG made the base Goku > all joke that has been around since GT true and official.

edited 1st Feb '14 2:51:51 PM by sockpuppet1


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