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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#44551: Oct 5th 2016 at 6:43:54 PM

I mean, the manga also brought back the Super Saiyan God transformation as something that Goku can do on his own now, and is actually confirmed weaker than Super Saiyan Blue. It also showed how the battle with Babidi and Dabura went, and it wasn't as simple as it was shown in the anime, and it also had Trunks use a "Full Power" Super Saiyan 2 to match Goku's Super Saiyan 3, implying that either Super Saiyan 2 is highly modifiable or that what Vegeta did against Beerus was actually a genetic mutation that every member of his family can do.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#44552: Oct 5th 2016 at 6:47:28 PM

But the power of the ......ENTIRE ASS!

Imagine what he could do if he was only willing.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#44553: Oct 5th 2016 at 6:54:23 PM

Toriyama's whole-ass power might create a manga that's too powerful!

Also, what about the rumor of him deciding the looks of SSJ based on one of his assistants, the guy who took care of the inking, protesting that filling up Goku's hair took too much time?

Because I can't really see a Japanese assistant to a big name mangaka whining about filling in Goku's hair. Yeah, I know they didn't do it with a paint bucket tool back then, but still, it is the Japanese.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#44554: Oct 5th 2016 at 6:55:25 PM

Here's the thing:

The way Toriyama has been working the past forever has been working amazingly well. Despite all the complaints anyone can level at Dragon Ball, that doesn't change the fact that it was, is, and will continue to be a money making juggernaut. Why should Toriyama change how he works when how he worked before worked out fabulously for him? Sure, it might make for a better product but Toriyama doesn't seem to be terribly interested in that.

[up] Actually, if memory serves, Toriyama decided that on his own to save his assistant time. I've never heard of his assistant whining.

edited 5th Oct '16 6:56:22 PM by Zelenal

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#44555: Oct 5th 2016 at 6:58:08 PM

So about Goku Black's origin; isn't it really disturbing to think the last thing that Goku's friends in his timeline saw alive was their closest friend murdering them? Or how Goku had to witness his own hands choke the life out of him?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#44556: Oct 5th 2016 at 7:17:20 PM

Hey, I can only imagine that if Toriyama was actively trying to do his absolute best, he'd probably screw it up because of the centipede dilemma, so let's just let the man go on as he has.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#44557: Oct 5th 2016 at 7:20:23 PM

....

Bah. fine.

Bu Imma still complain about it in private!

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#44558: Oct 5th 2016 at 7:22:17 PM

Can I get that in writing? :P

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#44560: Oct 5th 2016 at 7:25:37 PM

So...how much stronger is SSB than SSG?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#44561: Oct 5th 2016 at 7:29:49 PM

SSB is about one equilateral triangle stronger than SSG, I'd say.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#44562: Oct 5th 2016 at 7:58:29 PM

It's 20000 Scovilles stronger.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#44563: Oct 5th 2016 at 8:00:32 PM

It's whole ass power, and SSG is only half-ass power.

Duh.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#44565: Oct 5th 2016 at 8:09:04 PM

It's either slightly weaker, slightly stronger, much stronger, or more than 400 times stronger, depending on who you ask.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#44566: Oct 5th 2016 at 8:17:01 PM

It's basically 23 seconds to the right of the future.

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#44568: Oct 5th 2016 at 8:45:37 PM

It's as powerful as twenty Gokus

Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Making darkness adorable since 1999
#44569: Oct 5th 2016 at 8:55:56 PM
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#44570: Oct 5th 2016 at 8:58:11 PM

Inspired him to die faster is more accurate, he was already dead on arrival.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#44571: Oct 6th 2016 at 12:02:45 AM

I present to you, Vegeta's Ten Worst Nightmares (mildly NSFW language ahoy): http://pallottili.deviantart.com/art/Vegeta-s-10-worst-nightmares-143626971

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#44572: Oct 6th 2016 at 12:16:57 AM

I remember in a recent Interview that Toriyama said that he trusts and respects Toyotaro so much that he'll let him add his own ideas to the manga. Also, this preview from the Xenoverse Manga straight up says Toyotaro is Toriyama's chosen successor.

That still baffles the hell out of me, but good for him, he struck a once-in-a-lifetime deal.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#44573: Oct 6th 2016 at 1:31:54 AM

Title and summary scans are apparently out for episode 61 and 62 and... it does look like we're getting Goku going to the past to learn the Mafuuba to trap Zamasu into something. I mean, if you can't kill someone anyway, why not just lock him up. Forever?

Well now, who could have predicted THAT? [lol]

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#44574: Oct 6th 2016 at 2:58:32 AM

Indeed. The only other immortal that got sealed away was Garlic Jr but he is a filler character.

"Mai waifu."
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#44575: Oct 6th 2016 at 3:07:46 AM

Mafuba? That's actually brilliant... unless Black figure out that he just needs to wave his arms in the other direction to reverse it.

Still, I love when Super has those callbacks to things we though would never see again. First Kaioken, now mafuba.


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