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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#43726: Sep 11th 2016 at 1:02:39 PM

Well Black clearly takes pleasure in killing them slowly. Maybe that's Zamasu's thing too.


The "Majin" in Buu's name is more like "magical person" than it is "demon god" (that's Demigra's "majin"). Buu's epithet is the one you use for genies and djinns. So it's literally "Genie, Buu." (Keep in mind the "Majin" part isn't really part of his name, but it's been grandfathered in to such a degree that people just stick with it.)

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#43727: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:44:13 PM

I actually pointed that out myself about Black.

He could have nuked Earth from the get go and been done with it, but has chosen to do it slowly, one by one instead. It clear he enjoys being cruel, and it seems that Future Zamasu is the same way.

This is another thing. As crazy as he seems to be going, I find it odd that Zamasu would do things the long way instead of just destroying the mortals as quickly as possible. Who care if they suffer? As long as they are gone.

It feels like we're still missing a lot, although Goku and Whis' theory may be mostly right.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#43728: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:53:43 PM

I do like having a genuine mystery in Dragon Ball.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#43729: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:55:49 PM

[up][up]I think it's because Zamasu isn't interested in destruction, but purification.

He doesn't want to see planets blown up, he wants to see mortal life wiped out, so those planets will continue to exist without the "taint" of mortal life upon them.

The planets' landscapes will be ruined in the interim, but they'll recover given a few decades or centuries. And he's immortal, so it's not like he doesn't have time to wait.

edited 11th Sep '16 2:56:09 PM by DarkHunter

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#43730: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:57:48 PM

Seriously tho, at the pace they are going, they will never even make a dent in the number of mortals. They've been on Earth for more than a year now, and are still not nearly done. They seem to have forgotten that Universes are fucking huge. At this rate new species might well evolve faster than they are getting rid of them.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#43731: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:58:16 PM

Oh right.

I forgot someone mentioned that before.

Still, you'd think he'd just try a human extinction attack and be done with it.

Then again, there's no proof anyone but Super Buu can do that.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#43732: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:00:44 PM

Who says a wish would require any planets to explode? Super Shenron could just give mortals heart attacks or teleport them into space.

edited 11th Sep '16 3:00:51 PM by VeryMelon

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#43733: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:01:54 PM

Who even knows if he could have done that? The way they were acting, it seems like SSR was something he only got recently. He didn't seem to be Super Buu-levels when he was facing Goku the first time.

And, you know. They've actually almost finished their job. That small resistance seems to be the only remaining humans. Now they're just waiting for Trunks and co. to get back, just because they're a massive pain in the ass.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#43734: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:06:15 PM

He fought evenly with SSJ 2 Goku, who's far beyond Super Boo.

Even if they are just about done, a year dawdling on a single planet is a huge waste of time for someone who want to eradicate all the mortals in the universe.

Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
Fate, guide me
#43735: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:29:06 PM

Probably a Complexity Addiction from Zamasu's part. He could wish for death of all mortals but he wants to do it himself or something.

If shit hits the fan, he can always use SSJR's power to destroy the universe but good luck after that.

edited 11th Sep '16 3:33:50 PM by Bolded1

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#43736: Sep 11th 2016 at 4:04:13 PM

I mean, if you're going to do a project you may as well have fun with it right.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#43737: Sep 11th 2016 at 6:43:35 PM

The only outstanding issue I have with the plot so far is how - if as Whis postulates the future Zamasu and the current Zamasu are actually the same person and not alternate version of the same person - he ended up in Trunks' timeline of all places (the only thing I can think of is that he wanted a soft-run before he went after Goku's timeline and universe, and used the Time Rings to get there, but I don't think that much thought has been put into this). And if they're not the same Zamasu, why he picked Goku as Black's base in that timeline.

Other than that, this has totally been the storyline that cemented my complete enjoyment of Super, the storyline I've been waiting for since the show started.

Also, Zamasu's Psychotic Smirk game is on point. You don't become a real Dragonball villain without a good Psychotic Smirk, and he's totally pulling it off.

edited 11th Sep '16 7:26:04 PM by KnownUnknown

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#43738: Sep 11th 2016 at 6:59:17 PM

Yeah. The thing with him being in Trunks' timeline is still a stumper.

He must be the Zamasu of that timeline, but that doesn't explain why he would know Goku since the Goku of Trunks timeline is dead.

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#43739: Sep 11th 2016 at 7:29:58 PM

I've heard theories that went to Future Trunks's timeline because Goku is dead there, so he could steal Goku's body to use. But then the body is still suffering from the heart virus, which is why he's clutching his chest after he gets beaten by Goku.

...god, there are a lot of theories about this.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43740: Sep 11th 2016 at 8:05:32 PM

@ I Am Not Creative Enough

Goku said in both the English dub and the Japanese text that they were at their limit so going back in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber was pointless. Which was correct since Vegeta and Trunks spend an extra year in there and didn't become much stronger.

Also, Goku was dead when he got those two new forms and we never saw the training he got in the Otherworld. Also, Vegeta Super Saiyan 2 wasn't a huge jumped from Teen Gohan, seven years ago.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#43741: Sep 11th 2016 at 8:08:53 PM

It was not correct. Vegeta being stubborn and not training in a more efficient manner does not mean that there was no more benefit to be had from training in the time chamber. It means that Vegeta is stubborn and an idiot.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43742: Sep 11th 2016 at 8:18:11 PM

"It was not correct. Vegeta being stubborn and not training in a more efficient manner does not mean that there was no more benefit to be had from training in the time chamber. It means that Vegeta is stubborn and an idiot."

That is an assumption on your part. Even in the series, Whis said that Vegeta flaw was not relaxing enough, which slow his reaction time.

Outside their transformation, neither Goku and Vegeta got much stronger in the Buu Saga. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta took seven years to surpass Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, and Goku was the same, except he unlocked another Super Saiyan form. And he was dead and didn't train under normal conditions.

@Shlugo_the_great

Zamasu has made no wish yet. Whis is only assuming what he wished for, so you don't know if he asked to kill all mortal from the Super Dragon Balls.

Also, Zamasu is an immortal. He has the rest of eternality to cleanse the universes of mortals.

edited 11th Sep '16 8:22:31 PM by Ramona122003

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43743: Sep 12th 2016 at 12:00:21 AM

Someone made a series of vids that shows off each CAC fusion (excluding random encounter characters) in Dragon Ball Fusions:

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#43744: Sep 12th 2016 at 1:03:44 AM

Cool. Kinda wish they'd use the female CAC too.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#43746: Sep 12th 2016 at 3:20:09 AM

Presumably, they use the same engine and there are shared assets.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#43747: Sep 12th 2016 at 3:22:31 AM

As far as I am aware, none of the Buu forms have official names. In the manga, he is called Majin Buu no matter what form he's in. So, the grey Buu being called Evil Buu was never in the manga. So, it really isn't his name, just a title given to separate him. Like Fat Buu isn't actually called Fat Buu and Kid Buu isn't called that. The closest name for him in the manga is Pure Buu.

Labels would be the more literal term but it's semantics. They all have official labels. These are what the franchise as a whole uses for them,

"Pure Evil Boo" comes from the manga calling him "a pure evil Majin Boo" so you're wrong there. They use a variety of names for the forms of Boo to distinguish them.

I was never claiming they were given names.

edited 12th Sep '16 3:22:48 AM by Saiga

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43748: Sep 12th 2016 at 3:22:35 AM

[up][up] I guess, but it's so weird...

It's like if someone was playing Guilty Gear and fighting someone playing BlazBlue.

edited 12th Sep '16 3:22:47 AM by Rinsankajugin

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43749: Sep 12th 2016 at 7:13:24 AM

"Labels would be the more literal term but it's semantics. They all have official labels. These are what the franchise as a whole uses for them, "Pure Evil Boo" comes from the manga calling him "a pure evil Majin Boo" so you're wrong there. They use a variety of names for the forms of Boo to distinguish them. I was never claiming they were given names."

But even then, Super Buu wouldn't be pure evil once he absorbed Fat Buu since that version of Buu became mostly good thanks to the Kais. And he certainly wasn't pure evil after absorbing Piccolo, Gotenks, and Gohan.

Pure Buu was called pure evil because he was a mindless machine of death and incapable of being good or even reason with. How Evil Buu relates to Kid Buu is tricky since all the evil in Buu should have created Kid Buu and not Evil Buu, but with Toriyama's writing style, Kid Buu wasn't in existence when he made Evil Buu.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43750: Sep 12th 2016 at 10:00:25 PM

You know what would be hilarious?

If Xenoverse 3 added Evolution characters (based off the PSP game). Imagine Time Patrol Trunks trying to explain that one...


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