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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#43501: Sep 3rd 2016 at 6:21:15 PM

Don't forget the sixth and final one, Z-sometimes Y-no.

edited 3rd Sep '16 6:21:40 PM by Anomalocaris20

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43502: Sep 3rd 2016 at 6:25:08 PM

That's some kinda name, yo.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#43503: Sep 3rd 2016 at 6:38:20 PM

The animation team stepped up their game with Episode 57.

Why does Black know Instant Transmission? And why does Bad Future Zamasu just fly around instead of using the Kaioshin version?

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#43505: Sep 3rd 2016 at 7:36:25 PM

So what, did they just leave Mai and the rest of the rebels in the future? That's kinda dickish.

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#43506: Sep 3rd 2016 at 8:00:48 PM

Mai stayed to protect those who can't leave, despite Trunks insistence.

edited 3rd Sep '16 8:02:37 PM by Ikedatakeshi

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#43507: Sep 3rd 2016 at 8:37:22 PM

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If you look, Black specifically puts his fingers up to his head. As for Zamasu it was just an assumption.

[up] At first I thought that was mighty stupid of her. Then I remembered, "time machine." Trunks is overreacting.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#43508: Sep 3rd 2016 at 9:31:30 PM

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Trunks is panicking because if Mai dies while he's in the past there's no way to bring her back. The dragon balls of Earth are gone, and finding the Namekians and their dragon balls is going to be very difficult, as there's simply no more infrastructure on Earth for space travel.

edited 3rd Sep '16 9:32:00 PM by MyssaRei

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#43509: Sep 3rd 2016 at 9:41:48 PM

Then again, if Goku goes to the future again, he could go to new Namek himself.

....Or they can use the Super Dragon Balls, whichever comes first.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#43510: Sep 3rd 2016 at 9:42:23 PM

Then you remember that Goku has Instant Transmission, knows where New Namek is, and can sense energy across universal quadrants now.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#43511: Sep 3rd 2016 at 9:45:56 PM

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That's the only reason why the situation isn't so hopeless, because Goku of the present day is with Trunks.

edited 3rd Sep '16 9:47:00 PM by MyssaRei

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43512: Sep 3rd 2016 at 10:53:00 PM

A new DBH commercial was shown off during DBS. Here's a couple of screenshots:

Time Patrol Gohan and Time Patrol Vegeta cards

Gowasu card

edited 3rd Sep '16 10:53:10 PM by Rinsankajugin

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#43513: Sep 3rd 2016 at 10:56:16 PM

Trunks is panicking because if Mai dies while he's in the past there's no way to bring her back. The dragon balls of Earth are gone, and finding the Namekians and their dragon balls is going to be very difficult, as there's simply no more infrastructure on Earth for space travel.

Yeah, but time machine. Trunks should be able to set it to a moment after they left/before they left. cool He can't set it to go back in time to before the Androids killed everyone, but nothing's stopping him from returning to his world 10 seconds later.

edited 3rd Sep '16 10:59:13 PM by Soble

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#43514: Sep 3rd 2016 at 11:12:11 PM

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The problem is right now Trunks' time machine doesn't act like a time machine — it's more of a timeline jumper at this point, and doesn't seem to be able to go back up the same timeline either.

Otherwise Fridge Logic would dictate that Trunks take Goku and Vegeta back to when Black first appeared (when he was still relatively weaker) to get rid of him before he messed things up.

edited 3rd Sep '16 11:13:05 PM by MyssaRei

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#43515: Sep 3rd 2016 at 11:18:40 PM

That would just split the timelines further.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43516: Sep 3rd 2016 at 11:20:38 PM

Wouldn't that mean the Future Mai we're dealing with currently is different from the previous Future Mai, and the next future trip will have a 3rd Future Mai?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#43517: Sep 3rd 2016 at 11:25:59 PM

But did we ever get a clear idea of how much time had passed since Trunks came back from any of his trips?

If not, while Trunks machine doesn't act like a normal time machine there's nothing saying that it creates any sort of time lag. When Trunks left in the History of Trunks special it was daylight, and when he came back it was still daytime. Not exactly strong evidence but it supports the idea that the machine itself can jump to a parallel world in no time at all.

In DBS, how much time had passed between when Trunks went back and when Black followed him?

Otherwise Fridge Logic would dictate that Trunks take Goku and Vegeta back to when Black first appeared (when he was still relatively weaker) to get rid of him before he messed things up.

Saiyans are notoriously stupid tongue. Like, they didn't take any senzu beans, and they didn't bring backup, and Goku might be the reason Black's so powerful to begin with.

But that aside, Trunks can just bring them to a few seconds after they left if the time machine is incapable of bringing them backward. Of course there's no evidence it can do this but apart from Rule of Drama I don't see anything that implies it can't.

edited 3rd Sep '16 11:28:32 PM by Soble

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#43518: Sep 3rd 2016 at 11:30:12 PM

*ahem* The split timelines.

edited 3rd Sep '16 11:30:23 PM by Saiga

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#43519: Sep 3rd 2016 at 11:32:45 PM

Which one was the original timeline again? The one Cell came from or the one that that Trunks went to in order to get a remote to shut his androids down?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#43520: Sep 3rd 2016 at 11:34:44 PM

Cell's. It's his time travel that causes the Future Trunks we know to end up in a timeline where he survives.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#43521: Sep 3rd 2016 at 11:38:01 PM

Right, the one Cell comes from.

The "current" Future Trunks used knowledge of Cell gained in the past to anticipate his attack and survive, so that timeline wasn't the original.

Come to think of it, that original timeline is in an even more bleak state. Survived the Androids and Cell but has nothing whatsoever to stop Black and Zamasu... and that's assuming it also survived Buu.

edited 3rd Sep '16 11:38:47 PM by DarkHunter

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43522: Sep 3rd 2016 at 11:43:47 PM

Boo wouldn't exist in that timeline...seeing how there's no one to collect energy from.

edited 3rd Sep '16 11:44:24 PM by randomness4

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#43523: Sep 4th 2016 at 2:35:01 AM

People said the same thing about Trunks' timeline.

Babidi still showed up.

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43524: Sep 4th 2016 at 4:09:14 AM

"Cell's. It's his time travel that causes the Future Trunks we know to end up in a timeline where he survives."

Cell's timeline isn't the original. Cell specifically said that Trunks killed Frieza and King Cold in his time. In the original timeline, Goku did it. Although, Goku still died of the virus, so Toriyama probably made a mistake.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43525: Sep 4th 2016 at 8:24:25 AM

[up][up]They'd have to show up anyway...to retrieve Boo's egg. cocoon, pod thing.

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