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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#43276: Aug 28th 2016 at 11:49:50 AM

Yeah. I recall Trunks saying Black got stronger when they fought until he was utterly outmatched.

...Oh shit. Now we know why he's unconcerned about Beerus. Given enough time, he could become stronger then him as well.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#43277: Aug 28th 2016 at 1:07:25 PM

Sounds like Garou.

Hit, too. Hit got stronger the longer he fought Goku. The manga changed that. Or... the anime changed that. I wonder what the big difference between Manga Black and Anime Black will be. Hah, the manga will probably have him actually be a different Zamasu and the anime will have him be a corrupted zombie Goku.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#43278: Aug 28th 2016 at 1:38:03 PM

Well there's the theory that Black is possessing future Goku's dead body.

I mean, he gets stronger after every fight and now has a Super Saiyan form. Goku even comments one of his moves is like the Kamehameha

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#43279: Aug 28th 2016 at 6:42:19 PM

Goku Black is DIO. Or at least, very similar.

> Superior to humans

> Stole the main protagonist body

> Talks about beauty

> Is pink, therefore, fabulous.

Other than that, beats me. Black is a mystery, but so is that green fellow. He must be using the ring to travel to the future/alternate dimension, and did something to create Black.

Also, the more we get into Super, the more weak Uub looks like. Who knew Goku decided to train such a weenie.

kidding of course

edited 28th Aug '16 7:00:07 PM by Tomodachi

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#43280: Aug 28th 2016 at 7:05:15 PM

Keep in mind that Freeza went from comparatively speaking a joke to being a legitimate threat to the Gods if left to his own devices for too long.

Uub is just as powerful as Kid Buu as a base, and can only go up from there, so... yeah, just give him four months under Goku.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#43281: Aug 28th 2016 at 7:07:43 PM

Even Beerus acknowledged Frieza's defeat as shocking IIRC. He was the strongest mortal after all.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#43282: Aug 28th 2016 at 7:16:17 PM

I don't think Uub was supposed to be a strong as Kid/Pure Buu was when we first meet him.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#43283: Aug 28th 2016 at 7:17:45 PM

I don't think Uub was able to use that power, but I do believe he had it, 'cause that's kind of what Goku asked for in his reincarnation.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#43284: Aug 28th 2016 at 7:17:58 PM

My interpretation is he had just as much raw power as Kid Buu, but wasn't trained in how to access it or draw it out.

Kind of like Gohan always had amazing uber-powers but needed to learn how to tap into them.

EDIT: [nja]'d

edited 28th Aug '16 7:18:16 PM by DarkHunter

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#43285: Aug 28th 2016 at 7:24:00 PM

I mean, as strong as Goku is, it's not like he's immortal.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#43286: Aug 28th 2016 at 9:39:19 PM

Oh dear, looks like we ARE getting a Stable Time Loop with Super, as I don't think Zamasu EVER promised Goku that he'd deal with him eventually when they first met.

That, or Black really is that smug to not be surprised at anything our heroes pull off.

Interestingly Zamasu's wearing the gold Supreme Kai earring when he decided to make his appearance. You figure he offed Gowasu?

Oh man Super, first give us Trunks and Mai's tearful reunion, THEN have Trunks deny they're an item? When has that ever worked, especially with the blushing going on?

EDIT: Read the Super manga where Trunks gets back to the past, and it kind of explains why there's no Beerus there too... It seems that Kaiohshin died helping Trunks defeating Dabura. So no Kais = no God of Destruction.

edited 28th Aug '16 10:51:07 PM by MyssaRei

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#43287: Aug 28th 2016 at 11:49:46 PM

[up] That just seems pretty convenient if you ask me. And even then, if Future Beerus was alive, he would be pretty aloof to help, and just destroy the Earth since the is no Super Saiyan God.

How does exactly the Kaioshin/ Destruction God relation work, anyway? And what is the relation between Bills and Buu? I mean, Buu was killing all the Kaioshins, why was he so "nice" to Buu in Battle of Gods?

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edited 28th Aug '16 11:57:15 PM by Tomodachi

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#43288: Aug 29th 2016 at 12:01:56 AM

Buu is just a demon thing. Beerus was a sleeping cat so he doesn't care. I mean I imagine when he met the kai's again he asked "weren't there more of you" before saying he doesn't care

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43289: Aug 29th 2016 at 12:09:51 AM

I wonder, when did Goku learn how to do destructo-disks?

Anyways, Future Supreme Kai and Future Beerus may be dead, but maybe they could get some help from Future Whis, Future Champa and Future Vados? I'm sure Future Universe 6 is basically untouched, unlike Future Universe 7 and Future Universe 10.

edited 29th Aug '16 12:11:14 AM by Rinsankajugin

zsmg Since: Jul, 2011
#43290: Aug 29th 2016 at 12:19:39 AM

[up] All good moves gets stolen. :p He also used in the Buu fight.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43291: Aug 29th 2016 at 12:23:54 AM

Ah yes, now I remember.

Also, Gun Namekian fanart by Karakorugayome

I was waiting for that character to get fanart.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#43292: Aug 29th 2016 at 3:01:09 AM

Goku learned how to do the Kienzan the first time he ever saw it. Because Goku learns moves after seeing them once.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#43293: Aug 29th 2016 at 3:15:30 AM

As does Vegeta.

And basically everyone else.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#43294: Aug 29th 2016 at 3:30:12 AM

Which does not make my statement untrue at all.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43295: Aug 29th 2016 at 3:51:50 AM

For the record, Black gets stronger whenever he's hurt or fight. It isn't just Goku, especially since Black specifically said he got stronger fighting Vegeta.

And Black wasn't really trying against Vegeta since he couldn't' even harm Black in his base form.

edited 29th Aug '16 3:54:41 AM by Ramona122003

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#43296: Aug 29th 2016 at 3:57:39 AM

Black getting stronger every time he fights has been a thing since practically his introduction, when, y'know, Trunks said it.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43297: Aug 29th 2016 at 4:00:11 AM

One of the first Super Dragon Ball Heroes cards revealed, Super Saiyan Time Patrol Goku!

His special attack is the Ultra Dragon Fist and he can do a Triple Team-Attack with Long-Haired Time Patrol Trunks and the Supreme Kai of Time.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#43298: Aug 29th 2016 at 4:58:54 AM

[up] ...oh my god.

They literally haven't given Time Patrol characters ANY Super Saiyan forms yet, have they?

This could last for years.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43299: Aug 29th 2016 at 5:18:55 AM

So far, only Time Patrol Trunks, Time Patrol Bardock and now Time Patrol Goku have SSJ forms.

Time Patrol Goten, Time Patrol Gohan and Time Patrol Vegeta still haven't yet.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#43300: Aug 29th 2016 at 5:28:32 AM

Man, and they still haven't even gotten SSJ 3 yet.

Years of cards. There are years of cards now with this Time Patrol stuff.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!

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