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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42201: Jul 27th 2016 at 1:20:21 PM

It's only hypocritical if they make the exact same mistakes...

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#42202: Jul 27th 2016 at 2:03:48 PM

Regarding Multiverse and Mary Sues...

I'd like to remind you that Broly was strong enough to make Vegetto go Super Saiyan.

Broly was powerful enough to survive SSJ 3 Vegetto's strongest attack, along with the exposure that ensued. Also powerful enough to tempt Majin Buu into going after him and tipping his hand early.

So yeah, Multiverse does have a Mary Sue and it's Broly.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#42203: Jul 27th 2016 at 2:15:13 PM

While true, I misunderstood the point of the comment due to my faulty search on the topic.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42204: Jul 27th 2016 at 2:16:45 PM

[up][up]He's dead now (not really), so it's all good.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#42205: Jul 27th 2016 at 2:18:06 PM

Still a colossal Sue.

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#42206: Jul 27th 2016 at 6:33:42 PM

I don't understand why people say Bra is a Sue, though. At least her power has justification (Lamarck Was Right + the Fanon that half-Saiyans are inherently stronger than their parents). And it's not like she's supposed to be likeable.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42207: Jul 27th 2016 at 7:05:30 PM

She's not stronger than Vegetto.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#42208: Jul 27th 2016 at 8:14:59 PM

Yeah, her Super Saiyan 2 state is maybe close in power to Super Vegito, but him going Super Saiyan 2 himself would probably destroy her casually.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#42209: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:28:25 PM

That story sounds ridiculous. There is no way Broly is that strong.

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#42210: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:32:30 PM

DBM isn't even worth discussing, imo.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#42211: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:40:57 PM

Well apparently it's because the Legendary Super Saiyan form in DBM doubles in power every minute upon use, and makes the user immune to any pain they would feel; this is significant since a) Broly's first defeat required Goku to use a Spirit Bomb on him, to slam him into the giant ass comet, and b) his second defeat and death, except for in Universe 20 where he got lucky, required SS2 Gohan, SS2 Vegeta, and SS3 Goku all blasting him into the Sun with their strongest attacks.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#42212: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:42:41 PM

I don't understand why people say Bra is a Sue, though. At least her power has justification (Lamarck Was Right + the Fanon that half-Saiyans are inherently stronger than their parents). And it's not like she's supposed to be likeable.

It's odd that Bra loses control like that, despite her seemingly borrowing Vegeta's "eat, sleep, train" mentality. Either she recently obtained Super Saiyan 2, or Saiyan periods are just that intense. Or Salagir is making some kind of statement about women not being able to handle power. Potential sexism aside, it's weird that she can't control it when she's trained for years with Vegito of all people.

Moving on.

The Broly thing is supposed to be justified by Broly surviving the events of Second Coming, since he came back stronger in that film as well. DBM takes place 10 years after Z ends, giving a lot of wiggle room for various characters to be stupidly strong. It just doesn't really work for Broly since they haven't elaborated on what he did during the inter-rim, no special that says he "Zenkai's 6-7 times after Second Coming." Also doesn't work because Broly's power increase in the second film, if any, wasn't all that great since his only measuring stick was pre-Mystic Gohan.

edited 27th Jul '16 9:58:04 PM by Soble

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#42213: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:49:50 PM

Well again, he also fought SS2 Vegeta during the DBM version of Second Coming, so it was Gohan and Vegeta vs Broly, right up until the end when Goku interfered like in the movie, only this was due to him pulling the same stunt he did during the Bojack movie, and not the weird pseudo-wish thing that actually happened.

Ironically, one of the Raging Blast games said that Broly somehow managed to survive that, coming back with a massive Zenkai that granted him access to his version of Super Saiyan 3; he still ended up losing at some point, possibly at either Ultimate Gohan or Super Gogeta's hands.

edited 27th Jul '16 9:50:29 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#42214: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:50:26 PM

I do find it funny that people are still talking about DBM Broly when he hasn't even been in the comic for years. And isn't coming back.

I don't know if that says a lot about DBM, the fans, or both.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#42215: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:51:18 PM

It says a lot about everyone.

All bad.tongue

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#42216: Jul 27th 2016 at 9:56:09 PM

I like the comic. The art style's good when it's good, there's a lot of Continuity Nod. Really though, I was a fan of Sliders and Fringe, so the promise of alternate universes alone gobbles up my attention. The introduction of Universe 6 is the main reason I'm not completely disgusted with Super.

Well again, he also fought SS 2 Vegeta during the DBM version of Second Coming, so it was Gohan and Vegeta vs Broly, right up until the end when Goku interfered like in the movie, only this was due to him pulling the same stunt he did during the Bojack movie, and not the weird pseudo-wish thing that actually happened.

Ironically, one of the Raging Blast games said that Broly somehow managed to survive that, coming back with a massive Zenkai that granted him access to his version of Super Saiyan 3; he still ended up losing at some point, possibly at either Ultimate Gohan or Super Gogeta's hands.

Ah that's right, they did alter that.

I thought Super Saiyan 3 Broly was wrecked by Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta in short order. Like there was an entire campaign about Vegeta just mowing down Super Saiyan 3's.

I didn't care for Raging Blast, but that SS 3 showdown, and that one mission with Gogeta and Vegito got chuckles out of me.

edited 27th Jul '16 9:59:00 PM by Soble

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#42217: Jul 27th 2016 at 10:02:30 PM

Well it was more based on his bio in Raging Blast 2; "According to his bio in Raging Blast 2, Broly achieved the Legendary Super Saiyan 3 transformation due to a huge Zenkai boost that he received from being blasted into the Sun at the end of Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming."

Granted, Heroes went further with this and had promotional material for one mission say that SS3 Broly was stronger than Full Power Frieza, Hatchiyack, Super Perfect Cell, and even Super Buuhan.

edited 27th Jul '16 10:02:42 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#42218: Jul 27th 2016 at 10:08:25 PM

Aside from Buuhan, none of those are particularly surprising.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42220: Jul 27th 2016 at 10:48:09 PM

A wonderful color combination. To bad that the dark overtakes the other color, it'd look even better if it were even.

edited 27th Jul '16 10:49:25 PM by randomness4

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#42221: Jul 27th 2016 at 10:50:08 PM

Wow. Who knew that giving a serious villain pink hair would actually end up looking pretty cool.

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#42223: Jul 28th 2016 at 12:35:42 AM

Now that this is a thing, they're never going to run out of colours.

I really hope this a Black-only thing, like his version of SSGSS, and not a new form that Goku will get. We've been running through "NEW FORMS FOR GOKU AND ALSO VEGETA" like they're going out of style lately. It's made it lose its impact. Like it's Super Sentai, or something, and they get a new robot every 10 episodes.

Although maybe they will get a new hair colour form, and that's why they're wearing their old outfits; the ones that clash horribly with the blue-haired form. That might actually happen. I hope it doesn't.

edited 28th Jul '16 12:36:47 AM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42224: Jul 28th 2016 at 1:19:12 AM

How does Karrot's old outfit clash with Blooper Saiyan God?

I get it for Veggie, because on him it's just too much blue.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#42225: Jul 28th 2016 at 1:29:56 AM

I dunno, SSJB actually looks pretty good on classic Goku.

Now when Goku goes Super Saiyan White (you all know it's coming), that's when the outfit will clash! But you know what would go well with SSJW? Goku's blue EOZ gi.


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