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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#41051: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:41:45 PM

Super has a penchant of explaining long standing fan questions. We now know what Babidi and Dabura did in the Future timeline. Also that a single Sayain was enough to stop their plan, yet again showing that the greatest enemy of the Sayains in Buu saga were themselves.

So what if it turns out that Future Trunks's explanation about Babidi was only in the anime, and the manga completely glosses over it? What if manga!Super!Vegeta doesn't even ask Trunks about it?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41052: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:48:18 PM

[up][up][up]SSJ2 is the only way he could've defeated Dabra...so yeah, it's convenient.

Or he just learned how to block spit with his hands.

edited 26th Jun '16 4:53:59 PM by randomness4

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#41053: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:49:47 PM

[up][up]That might be the case. It did feel a little unnecessary.

I really don't want the Time Breaker stuff in Super. It's kind of like the complete opposite of what the series is about. Dragon Ball is about constant upward progression. Xenoverse and Heroes are all about revisiting past events. I think bringing that stuff in would honestly drag the series down.

That, and it'd feel like a real obvious ploy just to sell more copies of Xenoverse 2. I'd rather the merchandise be based off the series, not the other way around.

edited 26th Jun '16 4:49:56 PM by LOLypop1224

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#41054: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:58:33 PM

Yeah, I wondered how the hell he could block the spite, maybe it's because his higher power could somehow cancel out his hax ? idk.

Also, actually, I do believe that the time breakers would be bad. They could make an arc on them but I feel like Black is a more original idea.

Also, what happened to the supreme Kai in Trunk's timeline ?

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#41055: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:03:16 PM

I love the absolute glee Vegeta expresses at being able to beat up another Goku.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41056: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:04:34 PM

[up][up]He may or may not have died after teaching Trunks how to block stone spit.

Also...did they just forget that SSJ2 has different hair or did Carrot just skip the form.

edited 26th Jun '16 5:04:52 PM by randomness4

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#41057: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:04:40 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if the Time Breakers were used to advertise Xenoverse 2. It's an anime.

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#41058: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:10:05 PM

This isn't Super Sentai, or something! This is an anime-first continuation of a 30-year-old beloved franchise! I don't want them to just take a random detour and go "Oh, hey, buy Xenoverse 2, coming to a game store near you!" It's never gotten that blatant before in its entire history, and I want them to keep it that way.

It's not like they need the cross-promotion for it to stay on air. One Piece has been going on for years and giving Toei and Bandai a lot of money, and you don't see them including a filler arc that leads into the newest videogames. It's the other way around. The videogames take what's popular in the series at the moment, and put them all into a story.

edited 26th Jun '16 5:10:54 PM by LOLypop1224

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#41059: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:13:14 PM

I just thought of something: the fight between SS2 Gohan and Super Perfect Cell was like a power beacon, drawing both Babidi and Kaioshin to Earth on the affairs of Buu, right?

Well, we thought that Babidi wouldn't have bothered with Future Earth because Trunks was too weak to matter, but now that we know he's been training and growing the whole time and gotten powerful enough to fight Dabura, that's what drew the attention of Babidi and Kaioshin in the future.

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#41060: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:17:53 PM

So what if it turns out that Future Trunks's explanation about Babidi was only in the anime, and the manga completely glosses over it? What if manga!Super!Vegeta doesn't even ask Trunks about it?

Nothing much? We already know that manga pretty much does it one thing and only loosely follows Super.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41061: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:18:57 PM

My only explanation for blocking the spit is that Trunks flared up his battle aura to evaporate it before it could touch him.

I mean, those do produce some heat right? And the spit can still be evaporated I think.

As for Trunks getting SSJ 2, with the only ones capable of awakening Buu currently dead, Trunks was already more than strong enough to deal with anything that could have come his way...you know if not for Black showing up.

Frieza can't be revived in that timeline unless someone finds Namek (which they were unable to do in the main timeline, and even if they did, they'd still need to be able to speak Namekian to get it to work), and Beerus might not be awake in that time (and might not wake at all with no Super Saiyan God to entice him), so Trunks should have been find and dandy until the asshole who looks like the father of his old mentor and best friend decided to show up out of nowhwere and start wrecking everything.

Edit:

I just thought of something: the fight between SS 2 Gohan and Super Perfect Cell was like a power beacon, drawing both Babidi and Kaioshin to Earth on the affairs of Buu, right?

Actually, it was Buu's pod being on Earth that drew him there. So he was always going to come. We just assumed he'd never actually stay since there was so little energy to take. At most, Trunks could have filled it by a bit, but he was still only one person, and there was no one else left who could have provided enough energy to fill it any time soon.

Well, we thought that Babidi wouldn't have bothered with Future Earth because Trunks was too weak to matter, but now that we know he's been training and growing the whole time and gotten powerful enough to fight Dabura, that's what drew the attention of Babidi and Kaioshin in the future.

Trunks only got the training from the Supreme Kai because Babidi came, again because Buu's pod was on Earth. And Supreme Kai would have followed him to make sure he didn't stir up shit, met Trunks, seen how Bad Ass he was, and trained him to fight them.

edited 26th Jun '16 5:22:18 PM by HandsomeRob

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#41062: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:25:44 PM

On another note Chi Chi literally said that Goten studies are more important than Earth's safety. She pretty much became a parody of herself by this point. [lol]

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41063: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:27:45 PM

She said that before...like the exact same thing to Gohand.

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#41064: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:33:00 PM

Really? Sometimes I have problems telling apart the canon versus fanon when it comes to Chi Chi. It doesn't help that it's been some years since I watches the original series outside of the Abridged version where she is a bit exaggerated.

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#41065: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:33:34 PM

Trunks correctly guessing Whis was stronger than Beerus isn't too surprising. In Battle Of Gods Goku thought Whis was the god of destruction until told otherwise. The only people who fear Beerus are those who have gotten to know him.

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#41066: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:35:14 PM

Whis definitely looks more like a god than Beerus does.

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#41067: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:36:26 PM

To be fair, he thought Whis was the God of Destruction because he was the only one of the pair he could see when they first arrived on King Kai's planet; he didn't learn that Beerus was actually the God of Destruction until he could physically see him and saw King Kai address him as such.

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#41068: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:37:49 PM

Of course, she actually trained Goten of her own free will in the Buu Saga, but I guess Toei doesn't like bringing up anything that might make Chi-Chi a likeable character.

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#41069: Jun 26th 2016 at 6:14:48 PM

Okay, but Goku was also impressed by the appearance of Whis alone, he had to actually fight Beerus before he got the point.

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#41070: Jun 26th 2016 at 7:33:34 PM

@randomness : Except it wasn't "convenient " and Trunks was already close to Super Saiyan 2 already.

Convenient would be if he somehow gotten to Super Saiyan God. SS 2 isn't that big a deal at this point.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41071: Jun 26th 2016 at 7:39:02 PM

Yeah. I believe I mentioned that Grade 2 Super Saiyan is something of a mid point towards Super Saiyan 2 (though there's nothing official about that as far as I know, but everyone who's achieved SSJ 2 got grade 2 or full powered Super Saiyan before hand).

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#41072: Jun 26th 2016 at 7:40:38 PM

[lol] Even Vegeta's teenage son from an alternate timeline, without any knowledge of the form's existence, was able to attain Super Saiyan God.

edited 26th Jun '16 7:41:00 PM by Soble

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41073: Jun 26th 2016 at 7:50:51 PM

[up][up][up]About defeating Dabra with the form...not about the milestone of getting said form. He kept training to get the form, which was fantastic hindsight...but from his perspective he had no reason to.

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#41074: Jun 26th 2016 at 7:52:22 PM

Trunks was using ki to melt the spit. Look at his hands when he's blocking.

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#41075: Jun 26th 2016 at 7:54:19 PM

[up][up]He understands that things might come up (unlike Gohan)?


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