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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#40826: Jun 23rd 2016 at 3:49:56 PM

Huh...wasn't expecting Gohan to bond with Future Trunks...

Oh and the Mai episode, oh man. Rob's rage will be a sight to behold.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#40827: Jun 23rd 2016 at 3:59:50 PM

...

Why do I even bother getting angry?

I might as well save it for something else, because raging won't stop this damned ship.

I mean.... these are horses I just won't stop kicking, but why is this relationship so important all of a sudden?

Won't let Gohan be strong anymore (though at least he's training); Won't give Yamcha a win (or even let him participate in the fight against Frieza's goons); won't let 18 be anything more than a house-wife (and we all know she deserves better, and should have also been at the big fight); won't even bother to bring Launch back (and if you say she serves no purpose, then why are Oolong and Puar even showing up), but for some reason, Trunks and Mai have to take centre stage.

...It's all about whims. He's writes based entirely on his whims, and no amount of logic or anything else will stop him.

I mean, it's a very good thing I have accepted some facts about DBZ, or as much as y'all joke about how I rage at DBZ, I think I'd be as bad as I got on the Naruto thread (and that was pretty bad). I enjoy the other things about it, but I love the fights. I wish we got to see fights from people besides Goku and Vegeta, but they are still damned good fights.

Still though, there's a lot of stuff about Dragonball that is frustrating me more and more.

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#40828: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:09:09 PM

Goten, Trunks, and Android 18 were holding back because tournament. Yeah, 18 was surprised at their power, but nothing indicates they were stronger. Just one of those things that can't be proven conclusively one way or another.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#40829: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:12:41 PM

Well how strong could they be. They were untrained Super Saiyans, and 18 should be stronger then two untrained super saiyans (as Vegeta can attest).

While they are obviously both stronger then anyone else in the series was at their age, I can't believe either of them were stronger then their fathers or Gohan when they first became Super Saiyans.

I'm sure Saiga will put his foot down about it soon enough however....

Let me get a snare trap for when that happens.wink

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40830: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:13:49 PM

I'm pretty sure Saiga has already conclusively explained why them being stronger than her is not in doubt, but I'm not Saiga, and I don't know everything he cited. So, maybe he'll do that again later.

I frankly don't see why it gets under peoples skin so much, though.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40831: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:13:58 PM

A What-if scenario:

There should be a battle against 18 during that Buu arc and the Win Condition should be...lose to her on purpose as Mighty Mask and if you transform to even try and win, the next hit is insta-kill.

edited 23rd Jun '16 4:14:49 PM by randomness4

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40832: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:14:53 PM

[up][up]Some people just don't like Goten and Trunks being that strong.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#40833: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:20:59 PM

That sounds like their problem and not thew show's.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#40834: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:25:30 PM

Imagine Freeza or Vegeta's reaction if one of them did wish for immortality and Shenron or Porunga only made them as immortal as Roshi is.

edited 23rd Jun '16 4:27:19 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#40835: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:48:02 PM

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Would Shen-Ron or Porunga do that though?

They are pretty benevolent in how they grant wishes.

That sounds like their problem and not thew show's.

Heh. I know that's not about me specifically, but I'm willing to admit that describes much all of my issues with the series to a tee.

That being said if they are stronger, then they are stronger. Nothing to be done. I don't get why they'd be stronger, but we already know Toriyama does as he pleases (which is admittedly his caveat as an author) so that's how it is.

edited 23rd Jun '16 4:48:20 PM by HandsomeRob

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#40836: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:57:20 PM

There's no indication in canon that any other kind of immortality even exists in Dragon Ball.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#40837: Jun 23rd 2016 at 4:58:56 PM

...Roshi's been alive for centuries, he's got immortality in the way of longevity; there are different versions of immortality you know.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40838: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:01:16 PM

The dragons are pretty good about giving people what they actually want and the whole "being immortal isn't the same thing as being invulnerable" isn't a distinction any character who talks about wishing for it makes. It's very clear what they mean.

edited 23rd Jun '16 5:03:04 PM by LSBK

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#40839: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:01:20 PM

Not necessarily in Dragon Ball.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40840: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:04:20 PM

We have no reason to believe not in Dragon Ball either. Garlic Jr. probably is how that would turn out. It didn't make him stronger, it just made him unkillable and able to heal from anything.

Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
Fate, guide me
#40842: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:11:40 PM

The fusion to end all fusions : Whis and Vados :p

Nautolan picture belongs to Bonesmarinated on twitter
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#40843: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:13:11 PM

You know, I was going to make a joke about how being fused with a woman would make Whis unable to win, but then I remembered, wait, this isn't Naruto.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#40844: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:17:30 PM

Wait, why does 18 deserve better? She's never been an important character.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#40845: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:24:38 PM

Of course the new characters are going to be in Fusions. Although that just makes it a bit less likely that it'll be localised. God, I hope it gets localised. This is actually sounding so fun. It's not just "herp derp let's just make a whole bunch of Gogetas and really strong guys!" Arale is in this. Literally, you can do anything. Even if it's stupid.

I do really hope the Gohan/Future Trunks episode isn't just them making fun of him for being a nerd again. Not only is it kind of mean-spirited, but they're basically paying out Gohan for doing what he always wanted to do.

Like, I'm fine with them saying him being a nerd has had consequences, but if that's the case, they should make him actually learn from those consequences! Don't just make him be "Oh, because I didn't train and got weaker, Piccolo died and the Earth was destroyed. Oh, well! Better go back to studying all day so this can happen all over again!"

I guess we'll see in a few weeks.

edited 23rd Jun '16 5:24:48 PM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
Fate, guide me
#40846: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:25:35 PM

[up][up][up] That's a... weird Take That!.

I wonder what's going to happen in that black arc, maybe he get fought off at first and realize that he needs to grow stronger ? that'd be like cell tho.

edited 23rd Jun '16 5:25:58 PM by Bolded1

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#40847: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:37:15 PM

I feel like Freeza would have Death Saucered Vegeta in half and used his upper body as a footstool if Vegeta had actually managed to wish for immortality.

Unless immortal = invulnerability in this series.

edited 23rd Jun '16 5:37:51 PM by Hobgoblin

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40849: Jun 23rd 2016 at 5:50:30 PM

[up][up]Again, we never see in canon but it very well might, especially going off of the the Garlic Jr. stuff. Also, from looking at an immortal character from another series, I get the impression the Japanese are more often going to use the term "imortal" in the sense of Complete Immortality than not.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#40850: Jun 23rd 2016 at 6:02:47 PM

It's not even a Take That!, I was literally gonna post that joke and then the thought of "Wait, this isn't Naruto' came in and I was like "Holy shit".

[up][up]Gogeta doesn't give a crap about any 'combination' thing, he just blasts the enemy with his attack while they're distracted by how silly Pikkon and Gotenks are being.

edited 23rd Jun '16 6:04:25 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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