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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#40376: Jun 15th 2016 at 7:28:53 PM

Which is, unfortunately, almost certainly what they're going to do, because programming decent AI would take way more skill than what they have.

I don't mind a certain amount of Super Armor. I don't mind if the 'giants' have Pseudo Super Armor. But you know what I think is completely fucking stupid?

When Broly just walks right through my Super Kamehameha and stands there looking at me like "bitch I'm Broly".

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#40377: Jun 15th 2016 at 7:37:24 PM

But that's what Broly did in his debut movie.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#40378: Jun 15th 2016 at 7:37:48 PM

[up][up]And then he pimps slap you out of your Super because your Stamina is crap. [lol]

edited 15th Jun '16 7:37:55 PM by Lionheart0

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#40379: Jun 15th 2016 at 7:43:21 PM

[up][up]Maybe so, but there's a reason why Tropes Are Not Bad applies to Gameplay and Story Segregation, as well.

[up]Fun thing is, it never happened. He just stood there and took it.

Thing is, they compensated for the amazingly shitty AI by giving them super armor, and they compensate for the ridiculous amounts of super armor with even shittier AI. Which results in amazingly dumb bots that are basically unmovable damage sponges, but aren't really a threat at all. Shit, I remember fighting Broly with level 1 characters, and him not being able to defeat me, even though all he had to do was land 3 or so blows. I was dealing shit for damage, yeah, but the point is, he wasn't dangerous at all.

edited 15th Jun '16 7:46:00 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#40380: Jun 15th 2016 at 7:44:04 PM

I'd rather have Super Armor not be something annoying that all big bosses have, but instead a constant mechanic that applies in varying increments based on the difference between Levels. If Broly has to be in the game, I am fine with him having better Super Armor than other characters.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#40381: Jun 15th 2016 at 7:50:42 PM

When it comes down to it, Super Armor is a big fat load of Fake Difficulty, but sometimes, it's necessary. Broly is the kind of character you would expect to have Super Armor, like the Hulk in Marvel Vs. Capcom. And sometimes, it makes sense for a bossfight to have the boss have Super Armor, like, say, you're fighting freaking Beerus or Whis, and naturally, you're not gonna be able to make them flinch.

But it has to make sense for the character you're fighting. In Xenoverse, pretty much every single boss had Super Armor. The only character a newbie could realistically clear the game with was a Super Attack Spamming Super Saiyan.

If you want to make the bossfights harder, give them less health, but more speed, make them more aggressive. Just giving them infinite ki and stamina isn't enough, it needs to be more than that.

edited 15th Jun '16 7:52:27 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#40382: Jun 15th 2016 at 7:57:11 PM

I'm really hoping for Dragon Ball era characters/missions.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#40383: Jun 15th 2016 at 8:02:39 PM

PLEASE YES. And make the villain's plan revolve around 22nd Budokai Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu and pre-series Yamcha turning to the dark side and getting training to turn into a terrifying team of semi-final bosses. Remember how Human was, by far, the best class in Xenoverse 1?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40384: Jun 15th 2016 at 8:05:34 PM

And you win that fight by playing as a Saibaman.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#40385: Jun 15th 2016 at 8:19:57 PM

My level 99 Copyman can defeat everybody in a matter of seconds! tongue

edited 15th Jun '16 8:20:09 PM by Rinsankajugin

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#40386: Jun 15th 2016 at 9:29:13 PM

So you want the earthling characters to be relevant due to an in-universe acknowledgement of an inbalance in game mechanics for a previous game.

I mean I know human fans are desperate but daaaamn

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#40387: Jun 15th 2016 at 9:37:16 PM

Not our fault they tried balancing all the classes like they should.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#40388: Jun 15th 2016 at 10:14:02 PM

I mean, their idea of a semi-final boss rush was 2 pointless, out-of-nowhere battles against Evil Gohan, Evil Vegeta, and Evil Gotenks and against Evil Freeza, Evil Cell, and Evil Buu. They've already used all the most important heroes and villains (and wasted their Evil formes on a boss rush made just to pad out the roster, as opposed to actually incorporating them into the plot at all). Tenshinhan, Chiaotzu, and Yamcha being kidnapped from the times of their lives when they were at their worst at the beginning of the game, with the plot not really caring because they're only Tenshinhan, Chiaotzu, and Yamcha, only to show up at the very end, having been boosted to SS3 levels through off-screen Training from Hell, sounds like a fantastic and unexpected plot twist.

edited 15th Jun '16 10:15:37 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#40389: Jun 15th 2016 at 10:31:43 PM

God Mission 9 is a comin'!

EDIT: I just realized, if Time Breaker Bardock is powerful enough to go against SSJ4 Gogeta, how fucking powerful is Time Breaker Vegeta!?

edited 15th Jun '16 10:51:45 PM by Rinsankajugin

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#40390: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:25:37 AM

I say it because the adventures Percel had in the dragon ball era sounded really cool. King Piccolo fusing with Kami and the Red Ribbon Army creating having an army of androids.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#40391: Jun 16th 2016 at 2:36:16 AM

Mai is clearly Dr Briefs' illegitimate daughter. He and Mrs Briefs don't age, their family ages unrealistically...she simply inherited that gene. Hey, we haven't seen Mai's parents, so prove me wrong

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#40392: Jun 16th 2016 at 3:29:14 AM

Does the power scaling in Heroes actually make sense? Or is just sort of made-up?

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#40393: Jun 16th 2016 at 3:32:49 AM

It's all nonsense.

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Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
Fate, guide me
#40394: Jun 16th 2016 at 4:51:00 AM

Power-scaling in Heroes is basically "SSJ 3 for everyone", so heh.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#40395: Jun 16th 2016 at 4:57:30 AM

It's all nonsense and something fans are reading too much into anyway. Heroes just hype up whatever they want fans to buy, they're not trying to paint a cohesive narrative. Without that any power wank is worthless.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40396: Jun 16th 2016 at 8:03:01 AM

I also don't take Heroes seriously when it come to cohesion.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#40397: Jun 16th 2016 at 8:33:40 AM

I mean I know human fans are desperate but daaaamn.

I thought most fans were human.

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#40399: Jun 16th 2016 at 9:21:45 AM

Time Breaker Bardock is strong enough to go up against SSJ 4 Gogeta

what


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