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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#39601: Jun 2nd 2016 at 4:10:15 PM

Presumably, Gohan would already have that power. It probably explains why he's so much more powerful than SSJ 3 Goku.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#39602: Jun 2nd 2016 at 4:40:24 PM

While I used to like Super Saiyan 4... I really wish I could stop seeing it now. Super Saiyan Blue has stolen the spotlight, if they're going to keep upgrading the Saiyans in Heroes, use Blue instead of SSJ 4.

edited 2nd Jun '16 4:42:26 PM by Soble

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#39603: Jun 2nd 2016 at 4:45:44 PM

They've already used God as a power-up; unless 4 is somehow the stronger of the two, they're going to keep it on the God line.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#39604: Jun 2nd 2016 at 5:18:40 PM

Xenoverse 2 will likely have SSJ God and not SSJ 4. SSJ God is way easier to do 'cuz it's just 'turn your hair red' with maybe also making the characters thinner (shouldn't be too difficult, since it'd just be modifying the same values that the sliders in the character creation menu modify), and SSJ Blue is just making your hair blue.

SSJ 3 and 4, meanwhile, require a change in hairstyle and in the case of the latter, growing fur to cover your upper body and losing your shirt.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#39605: Jun 2nd 2016 at 5:49:07 PM

Irrelevant to me so long as androids or aliens are an option. Still irrelevant with just Freiza Clan as an option.

Though I like SSJB way more than SSJ 4.
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edited 2nd Jun '16 5:55:41 PM by Zeromaeus

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#39606: Jun 2nd 2016 at 6:58:17 PM

Gohan wasn't the Main Character for nearly long enough for me to get invested in him being such.

edited 2nd Jun '16 6:58:26 PM by HamburgerTime

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#39607: Jun 2nd 2016 at 7:07:24 PM

DBH is currently using both SSJG and SSJ4 for characters, so both are being used somewhat evenly with 7 SSJG characters (9 if you count SSJB Goku and Vegeta) and 5 SSJ4 Characters (6 if you count Full Power SSJ4 Broly).

edited 2nd Jun '16 7:08:11 PM by Rinsankajugin

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#39608: Jun 2nd 2016 at 8:51:31 PM

[up][up]Basically this for me. Goku was the main character for the Search for the Dragon Balls Arc, the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai, the Red Ribbon Army, the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, the King Piccolo Arc, the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, the Saiyan Arc, the Freeza Saga, the Android Arc, and the middle part of the Cell Saga before Gohan took over for the very end of the Cell Saga and the very beginning of the Buu Saga.

I never expected Gohan to last as the main character, considering how little time we've had with him, his completely unfit for a Shounen protagonist personality, and just how much time was devoted to Goku.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#39609: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:04:57 PM

Main Characterness gets vollied around like a hot potato during the Cell Saga, I will say that. Roughly, Trunks -> Goku and Vegeta -> Piccolo and Krillin -> Trunks and Vegeta -> Goku and Gohan -> Gohan.

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#39610: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:51:12 PM

Toriyama didn't have a problem with Gohan as a main character, the fans did. Way i heard it they put the focus back on Goku due to fan demand.

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#39611: Jun 2nd 2016 at 9:54:10 PM

Nope. That's been proven to be false.

Toriyama himself changed his mind about Gohan being the hero cause he liked writing Goku better.

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#39612: Jun 2nd 2016 at 11:46:32 PM

Just to clarify, Frieza counts as Laughably Evil, right?

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#39613: Jun 2nd 2016 at 11:59:41 PM

Not usually.

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#39614: Jun 3rd 2016 at 12:05:44 AM

[up]Doesn't it say in his character page that he has a funny moment every once in a while?

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#39615: Jun 3rd 2016 at 12:10:54 AM

That might be more abridged than traditional DBZ.

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#39616: Jun 3rd 2016 at 12:14:12 AM

[up]I'm well aware of that. But in the original series he's taken completely seriously regardless of any comedic quirks he has. Of course in DBZ Abridged he's Played for Laughs as you would expect in a parody.

edited 3rd Jun '16 12:14:59 AM by superboy313

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#39617: Jun 3rd 2016 at 12:16:58 AM

Considering Freeza is basically the Biggest Bad the series has, I don't feel like we're supposed to laugh. Buu, maybe.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#39618: Jun 3rd 2016 at 12:18:48 AM

Apparently a new article is floating around somewhere with some info on the Future Trunks Saga.

People have said that the article states that "A man called "Black" suddenly appears. Trunks tries to resist but the power of a Super Saiyan is no match. Future Bulma becomes determined to borrow the strength of Goku and Vegeta of the past. It'll take a half a year to refuel the time machine but standing in their way is the formidable Black."

So this means Goku Black's prominent name is "Black" rather than "Goku".

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#39619: Jun 3rd 2016 at 12:21:11 AM

Well...in the original English dub, Frieza says "pop goes the weasel" and chuckles after he kills Krillin; in the English dub for Kai, he instead says "I think the brat should go next," referring to Gohan. I think it's actually implied in the original dub and the manga that Frieza threatening Gohan is what actually pushed Goku over the edge into becoming a Super Saiyan.

edited 3rd Jun '16 12:21:54 AM by Ssj3Gojira

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#39620: Jun 3rd 2016 at 12:29:13 AM

[up]In other words, the whole reason Frieza has Laughably Evil listed on his page is because of a Gag Dub?

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#39621: Jun 3rd 2016 at 12:34:17 AM

More like early 90s dub.

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#39622: Jun 3rd 2016 at 12:39:02 AM

Even in the old dub, he wasn't played for laughs. In the manga, about the only thing funny is when he plays the Straight Man to Ginyu.

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#39623: Jun 3rd 2016 at 7:37:47 AM

Nitpick regarding Gohan: Gohan isn't unwilling to fight. When evil's on his doorstep, he's as willing to leap into the fray as anyone else. At no point during, say, the ROF arc of Super did Gohan go, "NOOOOOOOOO I'm a scholar now!" and lock himself in his house. I mean, I posted that hilarious image of him hiding behind a rock with Bulma, but he was fighting before Goku and Vegeta got there.

Gohan's issue was unwillingness to fight in the Cell arc but since then, his issue has been unwillingness to train.

Which is because it's not his passion. Gohan's the guy who knows he probably should get in shape and maybe will spend a few weeks in the gym but then he misses a day because he had a hard day at work and just wanted to spend it reading and then a week later he misses three and he's like, "I shouldn't miss any more days," but it isn't long before he just quits entirely because he has better things to be doing.

Goku and Vegeta, conversely, are the guys hitting the gym day in and day out, having flexing competitions and seeing who can bench heavier loads, screaming "WORK THOSE ABS!" and making Gohan kinda uncomfortable because he doesn't understand how anyone could be so into fitness.

Without a threat on the horizon or a parental figure that he can bond with by doing it, Gohan just isn't motivated to work out for the sake of having a higher power level and being awesomely strong.

edited 3rd Jun '16 7:43:34 AM by TobiasDrake

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#39625: Jun 3rd 2016 at 7:46:07 AM

Nitpick regarding Gohan: Gohan isn't unwilling to fight. When evil's on his doorstep, he's as willing to leap into the fray as anyone else. At no point during, say, the ROF arc of Super did Gohan go, "NOOOOOOOOO I'm a scholar now!" and lock himself in his house. I mean, I posted that hilarious image of him hiding behind a rock with Bulma, but he was fighting before Goku and Vegeta got there. Gohan's issue was unwillingness to fight in the Cell arc but since then, his issue has been unwillingness to train. Which is because it's not his passion. Gohan's the guy who knows he probably should get in shape and maybe will spend a few weeks in the gym but then he misses a day because he had a hard day at work and just wanted to spend it reading and then a week later he misses three and he's like, "I shouldn't miss any more days," but it isn't long before he just quits entirely because he has better things to be doing. Goku and Vegeta, conversely, are the guys hitting the gym day in and day out, having flexing competitions and seeing who can bench heavier loads, screaming "WORK THOSE ABS!" and making Gohan kinda uncomfortable because he doesn't understand how anyone could be SO INTO fitness. Without a threat on the horizon or a parental figure that he can bond with by doing it, Gohan just isn't motivated to work out for the sake of having a higher power level and being awesomely strong.

This is true. Gohan needs to have a real threat in front of him in order to train himself. Which makes sense since that's always been the reason he trained. The Saiyans, the Androids, Cell. Every time he did any form of training, it was to prepare for a coming threat. This goes back to how Martial Arts has never been something fun that he does like the others—for the most part—but something he had to do or him and everyone he loves would die horribly.

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