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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#39102: May 19th 2016 at 3:07:45 AM

Huh.

There was a time when Yabuki didn't draw everything like he was drawing a hentai doujin?

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#39103: May 19th 2016 at 6:41:30 AM

Well, he was just a teenager at the time.

Also, TIENCHA CONFIRMED!

edited 19th May '16 7:21:39 AM by Rinsankajugin

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#39104: May 19th 2016 at 7:11:13 AM

Who really cares if you can play as Slug? Does anyone WANT to play as Slug? Or Dodoria? Or 6 different versions of Gohan?

A lot of people do. I was surprised to see Xenoverse receive flag for skipping Dodoria and Zarbon... despite it not needing to be a straight adaptation of the manga, and those two being very minor characters.

I can understand wanting them for games that try to faithfully adapt the games story, but it frustrates me that games that try to do something different are bogged down by requests for characters who would do little to help the developers' plans. And if they don't add anything to the game but their number on the roster, they're taking away from it. Because each additional character comes at a cost.

Slug is a little more understandable because he's not made playable very often - so both his fanbase and people who just want things shaken up a bit would like to see him return. I like him well enough, and think he's a welcome addition.

As for multiple variations of the same character... done poorly it's one of my biggest pet peeves with the games. They deceptively pad out the roster count and I hate that a game can have both Goku's Kaio-ken and Yardrat outfit without allowing them to be combined. You make the characters worse by splitting all their options up.

That said, Gohan's one case where it is justified because of the three main development stages he has in the story. You don't need anything more than those three, but I definitely appreciate all three being included. I think even Future Gohan can just be an alternate outfit for teen/adult Gohan because he'll always have two arms anyway and doesn't have much difference in gameplay. Hell, thanks to video games he even has all of present Gohan's forms bar Super Saiyan 4 (give it time...).

One thing I'd really like to see is a game with a (relatively) smaller roster but just go overboard with the options present to the characters that are in. So you can have base Majin Vegeta in his GT outfit because all those options are on the same character, stuff like that.

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#39105: May 19th 2016 at 8:29:43 AM

Thinking about it now, it really annoyed me that the "Future" alt for Gohan didn't have the correct appearance ( Gi/hairstyle). I mean, if you could adapt his moveset, then surely it would be simple to modify the top gi/hair, right?

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#39106: May 19th 2016 at 8:49:00 AM

Yeah, unless they're willing to chop off his arm, Future Gohan doesn't need to be a separate character. He can be a skin and have whatever scant moves they come up with to give him added to Adult Gohan's pool.

More options are better than less.

edited 19th May '16 8:50:10 AM by TobiasDrake

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#39107: May 19th 2016 at 8:56:48 AM

Yea, there's nothing really differing Future Gohan from his present adult self in terms of moveset, so its kind of aesthetic for the most part.

edited 19th May '16 8:57:00 AM by BlackYakuzu94

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#39108: May 19th 2016 at 9:53:47 AM

As for multiple variations of the same character... done poorly it's one of my biggest pet peeves with the games. They deceptively pad out the roster count and I hate that a game can have both Goku's Kaio-ken and Yardrat outfit without allowing them to be combined. You make the characters worse by splitting all their options up.

Agreed. That's why I hope Xenoverse 2 allows for non-Ca Cs to be customized with their canon abilities and clothes, like Budokai did for Capsules. You don't need 12 Gokus when allowing the play to equip different skills and clothes is a batter option.

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#39109: May 19th 2016 at 12:06:02 PM

I swear, if Dabura is left out again, I riot. There is no justification for leaving him out when his damn sister is one of the main villains.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#39110: May 19th 2016 at 1:28:04 PM

There is one justification in Xenoverse. His presence would've been meaningless to the story because he wouldn't have factored in.

Towa is very clearly evil and very clearly does not give a crap about Dabura.

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#39111: May 19th 2016 at 1:32:13 PM

Not so meaningless. Regardless of how Towa feels towards Dabura, it would create an opportunity to find out how Dabura feels about her.

We know nothing about Dabura as anything but Babidi's loyal, mind-controlled slave. Interacting with Towa would give him a chance to be his own character.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#39112: May 19th 2016 at 1:46:38 PM

When separated from Babidi, Dabura loves kittens and rainbows. Babidi controlled him by harnessing his anger against those who would abuse small fuzzy kittens.

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#39113: May 19th 2016 at 1:55:51 PM

[up][up]I would guess he's just kind of a dick.

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#39114: May 19th 2016 at 1:57:20 PM

That's after he was sent to heaven though.

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#39115: May 19th 2016 at 1:57:32 PM

There are many flavors of dick.

...

...

Yep, I'm standing by that phrasing. Kinda sad it wasn't a page-topper.

edited 19th May '16 1:57:47 PM by TobiasDrake

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#39116: May 19th 2016 at 1:59:50 PM

My response to the games could be used to flesh out Dabura is "Who the hell cares about Dabura?"

Like, yeah, it's a thing they could do but it's not like it's something people have actually been clamoring for.

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#39117: May 19th 2016 at 2:02:54 PM

I care...Dabura is a character.

They should do something.

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#39118: May 19th 2016 at 2:06:01 PM

My answer to that is: who the hell cares about Dabura's sister? Like, not even one of his race. His sister. Flesh and blood family. The only reason to cross that line is to flesh both characters out by their relationship with each other.

Instead, they're like, "Meet Towa, she's Dabura's SISTER but that don't matter none and could have been completely skipped over because it's totally irrelevant to everything ever. Might as well pretend we didn't say it."

edited 19th May '16 2:07:19 PM by TobiasDrake

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#39119: May 19th 2016 at 2:07:21 PM

I just wanna know if her spit turns people to stone too.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#39120: May 19th 2016 at 2:08:11 PM

Or it's just a convenient angle. It's not that uncommon to make new villains related to old villains out of convenience even if you don't want to delve into the old ones anymore.

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#39121: May 19th 2016 at 2:08:21 PM

Oh, it turns something to stone I bet.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
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#39122: May 19th 2016 at 2:09:02 PM

Like, you remember that time Goku had a brother and it was a shocking reveal that was used to flesh out Goku's history?

The treatment Towa's received so far with her relationship to Dabura is like if Goku's brother had been Dodoria instead.

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#39123: May 19th 2016 at 2:10:42 PM

That's an. Interesting. Point.

Raditz being Goku's brother was a lot less important than Goku being an alien.

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#39124: May 19th 2016 at 2:17:13 PM

But it was still important for their interaction. Raditz's disdain for humans contrasts with his determination to show Goku the error of his ways and bring him into the fold. But his callous treatment of Goku and Gohan also demonstrates that his family loyalty, if he even has any, only extends so far. He interacts with his family in a way that flavors his dick. He's more than just an evil conqueror; he's a brother straining to indoctrinate a worldview into his sibling.

Meanwhile, Goku's abrupt rejection of Raditz and everything that he stands for and completely lack of f*cks given towards killing him shows that Goku doesn't care about bonds of blood even one whit. He's never had them, he doesn't want them, they don't define him. It firmly establishes that he is Son Goku, child of Earth, and not Kakarot, child of Bardock, and he makes no apology for it.

Both characters were enhanced by being allowed to interact with each other and spring off each other. The relationship allows them to show different colors than they might under other circumstances because they're colors that wouldn't come up under any circumstances but this one. Characters aren't defined by what they do in a vacuum, they're defined by what they do to each other.

edited 19th May '16 2:19:27 PM by TobiasDrake

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#39125: May 19th 2016 at 2:28:28 PM

I'm going to be honest, I'm kind of stuck on the fact that the topic of dick flavor keeps coming up.


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