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#38851: May 15th 2016 at 5:06:01 PM

Hold on? Pan learned to fly before Goten? I guess talent really does skip a generation.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#38852: May 15th 2016 at 5:09:52 PM

You mean before both bros, mang.

Also...why are you surprised by that of which we already knew?

edited 15th May '16 5:10:59 PM by randomness4

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#38853: May 15th 2016 at 5:15:45 PM

Come to think of it, she was introduced younger than Goten was, wasn't she? I keep thinking Pan was older because Bra hasn't been born yet.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38854: May 15th 2016 at 5:18:26 PM

Yea, Pan is older than Bra.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38855: May 15th 2016 at 5:21:29 PM

The way GT had Bra dressed didn't help with that.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#38856: May 15th 2016 at 5:26:01 PM

Hold on? Pan learned to fly before Goten? I guess talent really does skip a generation.

To be fair, Gohan and especially Goten were effectively raised exclusively by Chi-Chi. tongue

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38857: May 15th 2016 at 6:06:42 PM

But Chi-Chi personally trained Goten...she's the reason Goten is a Super Saiyan lol. (Well, if you go by the Anime anyway)

edited 15th May '16 6:07:18 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#38858: May 15th 2016 at 6:09:23 PM

Yeah but even fused with Trunks he still can't beat Mr. Popo if you go by the anime.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#38859: May 15th 2016 at 6:11:16 PM

I think I finally figured it out!

The main timeline has 12 unique universes in groups of 2, and supposedly each timeline (Main, Trunks, Cell, etc...) has it's own 12 unique universes.

Would that make these alternate timeline universes "Parallel Universes" and would they be infinite?

edited 15th May '16 6:11:32 PM by Rinsankajugin

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#38860: May 15th 2016 at 6:13:52 PM

[up][up]No Gotenks vs Popo...SSJ tag team vs Popo.

edited 15th May '16 6:14:13 PM by randomness4

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#38861: May 15th 2016 at 6:22:02 PM

Chichi trained Goten, yes, but how could she have taught him to fly when she doesn't know crap about ki control herself.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#38862: May 15th 2016 at 6:28:37 PM

Which I don't understand really.

Then again, I suppose it's part of that Chi-Chi wants to be normal at all costs thing. I mean, not wanting her 4 year old son to join in on life and death battles is one thing, but she could have easily learned how to fly, and it would have saved them a lot of money rather than having Goku learn how to drive.

Or she could have used the Flying Nimbus, since she's pure hearted enough to ride it after all. Or at least she used to be. We've never seen her on it post marriage.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#38863: May 15th 2016 at 6:33:12 PM

Oh, Chichi is pure hearted still, for sure. Pure nag, yes, but pure.

Anyway, it's likely that she never learned because she never thought there was a point to learn. Even as utility. Because it's a martial arts technique and she thinks that the Martial Arts aren't worth her time.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#38864: May 15th 2016 at 6:42:33 PM

Though, Chichi was taught by her dad, who was taught by Master Roshi, aka the very first ki-controller seen in the entire series...

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#38865: May 15th 2016 at 6:52:25 PM

But neither Roshi nor Ox King know how to fly.

Tenshihan and Chiaoutzu were the first to use it, though I think their version was different from the one everyone uses now.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38866: May 15th 2016 at 6:53:22 PM

I think Piccolo was the one who used a different version from everyone else.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#38867: May 15th 2016 at 7:21:51 PM

Chichi was taught martial arts by people who know about Ki, that's why she knows about Ki and is able to, to a certain extent, use it on herself. But that doesn't mean she actually knows much about ki or how to use it. I'm fairly sure the last time she trained herself seriously was when she was preparing to fight Goku.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#38868: May 15th 2016 at 10:25:26 PM

So did the last episode feel special to anyone else?

The episode felt special.

As much as I don't really like Goku's personality in Super, particularly since his recklessness seems to be a character flaw, when Goku mastered Super Saiyan by relaxing - but that said, seeing him down for the count for once, forcing himself to spend some time with Pan, Gohan having a picture of Pan on his phone, and Goku and Piccolo sitting down together, two old enemies now taking care of a baby girl as friends, Goku admitting that he feels like an old man.

Next Super's going to bring back Future Trunks Grandpa Gohan and give him a heart-to-heart with Goku.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#38869: May 15th 2016 at 10:42:02 PM

This episode really felt like a heartwarming take on "Look At How Far We've Come" plots usually saved for epilogues.

The main character who we knew since a child is now a grandparent, former enemies and killers are now best friends and caring people, and the new NEW generation has even more power potential than the last with Pan.

I can't wait to see how DBS will do End of Z and if it will go beyond that in it's own way.

edited 15th May '16 10:42:48 PM by Rinsankajugin

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#38870: May 16th 2016 at 5:06:28 AM

I mean, in the manga, Pan is literally introduced as just having flown around the Earth. And she was 4 then. Goten not being able to fly until he was 7 (but being able to go Super Saiyan) was presented as something really unusual. He could do all the complicated stuff, but not the basics. I mean, even Gohan could fly at 5.

There's probably a trope name for it.

I agree, this episode was really touching. We got to see some slice-of-life + cameos + comedy + hinting that Pan might potentially grow up to be powerful. Plus, Gohan is revealed to still exist.

edited 16th May '16 5:07:39 AM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#38871: May 16th 2016 at 5:24:12 AM

No, it wasn't unusual. It was something Gohan hadn't thought about, but Goten's only teacher could not fly herself. Once Gohan taught him, he was doing it perfectly the very same day.

Which is why it's silly to use someone's age as a milestone if it only takes a day's work to achieve.

edited 16th May '16 5:24:36 AM by Saiga

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#38872: May 16th 2016 at 6:08:08 AM

Yeah, but even if she couldn't do so herself, Chi-Chi did have something the way of Ki control (Martial Artist and all).

So Goten already knew enough that once Gohan showed him what to do, he picked it up quickly.

Hel,, even Videl caught on pretty quick, and with less knowledge of what to do then Goten.

Pan is a baby. She's been taught nothing at all. And yet she's already able to fly around.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38873: May 16th 2016 at 6:10:02 AM

Saying Goten learned how to fly late wouldn't make any sense even if it did take him awhile to get. It's not like it's a thing most people learn as kid.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#38874: May 16th 2016 at 6:36:13 AM

I admit, seeing Piccolo act like the a total know-it-all nanny made me smile. Then him and Goku sitting outside on the roof talking made me smile even more.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#38875: May 16th 2016 at 8:17:38 AM

New game probably being announced tomorrow. Maybe Xenoverse 2 so they have something to talk about at E3.

edited 16th May '16 8:21:15 AM by LordofLore


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