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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#37576: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:14:04 PM

Whis' job is to train Gods of Destruction for the job and cater to their needs. Mr. Popo serves the exact same purpose, but for Earth's God. Hell, it's completely possible that Mr. Popo is stronger than Dende!

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37577: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:20:28 PM

If he wasn't that'd be sad.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#37578: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:20:39 PM

It's not so much 'possible' as it is pretty much confirmed fact.

I mean, Mr. Popo actually knows how to fight and Dende does not, so... That kind of makes things clear.

[up]Dende's actually fairly powerful - he had his power unlocked by Guru.

He's just a joke when compared to the monstrously powerful people that surround him. Remember, even Yamcha can blow up planets.

edited 15th Apr '16 9:21:41 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#37579: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:22:42 PM

Well, given Guru unlocking some of Dende's potential, it's possible Dende's higher in terms of raw Power Level, but I'd still give the edge to Mr. Popo.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37580: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:23:48 PM

Pretty sure Dende being able to heal is the result of having his power unlocked. It was never said it had to be offensive power, after all.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#37581: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:26:19 PM

Dende vs. King Piccolo is apparently a matter of serious debate in some circles.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#37582: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:28:28 PM

That's a pretty interesting fight actually.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#37583: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:32:16 PM

It all depends on if Dende's potential unlock made him powerful enough to tank everything King Piccolo throws at him and one-shot him in return.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37584: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:33:46 PM

Even with the unlocked potential, he's just a kid...he shouldn't even be above those Nameks that tried to "fight" Dodoria.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#37585: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:35:01 PM

[up] Who were more than ten times KP by the way.

Isn't it sad?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#37586: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:41:20 PM

Daimao was literally a shell of his former self.

It's a bigger problem to me that they're stronger than Saiyans, or many soldiers in Freeza's army.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#37587: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:42:46 PM

Dende would heal King Piccolo to death.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#37588: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:45:47 PM

[up][up]They seem to be just as strong as Saiyans, yet the warriors would have to be stronger.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37589: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:56:48 PM

Wait? Who's are strong as Saiyans?

Are we talking about the Nameks?

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#37590: Apr 15th 2016 at 9:57:57 PM

The three warriors Dodoria killed. They were twice as strong as Raditz.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#37591: Apr 15th 2016 at 10:01:31 PM

Oh right.

I used to call those dudes "The Ass-kicking Nameks".

Note that the first clip I saw of them stopped before Dodoria joined the fight, but they did pretty well, especially since Guru would later state that Nail was the only proper fighting Namek on the planet.

Imagine if More Namekian's had Nail's level of power...that would be a lot of fusing.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#37592: Apr 15th 2016 at 10:05:31 PM

The three who confronted Freeza had battle powers of 3,000 each

The one true fighter-type has a battle power of 42,000 with no other context given

Raditz had 1,500 as a low-class Saiyan, and Nappa had 4,000 as an elite. Being close to Nappa's power immediately after the Saiyan arc feels more like series escalation than anything else, same with Nail being revealed to be 42,000 after the fights with the Ginyu Force

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#37593: Apr 15th 2016 at 10:10:22 PM

Didn't Nail have his potential unlocked?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37594: Apr 15th 2016 at 10:11:07 PM

I would assume so. But I think he also probably had some proper training as well.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#37595: Apr 15th 2016 at 10:15:31 PM

[up][up] Again, no context given. Nothing to say it was unlocked. Nothing to say it wasn't unlocked.

It's a fair assumption but the series doesn't ever offer it.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37596: Apr 15th 2016 at 10:28:24 PM

[up]

Well, he unlocked Dende and two random aliens. I see no reason why he wouldn't unlock Nail.

While there is no evidence that he did, it makes more sense to me that he did then he didn't.

Hell if he'd done it for more than just the few he did during the Namek saga, maybe they'd have at least....no wait. Frieza could have still solo'ed them all. Never mind.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#37597: Apr 15th 2016 at 10:36:55 PM

Wait, isn't Nappa a mid-class Saiyan, seeing as how Toriyama stated in an interview that only King Vegeta and Prince Vegeta were elite-class warriors?

edited 15th Apr '16 10:40:03 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#37598: Apr 15th 2016 at 10:42:41 PM

As mentioned before, the manga gives their rankings as low-class / elite / super elite

In interviews Toriyama uses the rankings low-class / mid-class / elite, and here elite matched what was previously described as "super elite" (King Vegeta and Prince Vegeta). Nappa was an elite in the manga, but not part of the elite ranking Toriyama used in the interviews.

The way I see it, elite / super elite is what is actually used by the Saiyans (who exaggerate their importance), whereas mid-class / elite is the more accurate, out-of-universe distinctions.

In any case they have three distinct classes.

[up][up] I like to think the three that confronted Freeza's goons had just come back from being unlocked by Guru. It fits with their absence at the start of that fight, and would be a good way to foreshadow the Guru's power.

edited 15th Apr '16 10:57:45 PM by Saiga

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#37599: Apr 15th 2016 at 10:44:55 PM

Well, the wiki seems to imply that Elite and Low-class were the only terms actually used in the original series; it makes no mention of the super-elite class; it might have just been an anime thing or something, or hyperbole.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#37600: Apr 15th 2016 at 10:59:31 PM

Well, the wiki

See there's your first problem. Secondly, Vegeta does refer to himself as a Super Elite in the manga, but the English translation just changes it to Elite Saiyan.


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