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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#37551: Apr 15th 2016 at 2:41:10 PM

Their more or less on equal footing; Whis has no fear of Beerus enough to make fun of him, and Beerus can make requests of Whis, no questions asked.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37552: Apr 15th 2016 at 2:44:11 PM

So...which one is Bat Man and which is Alfred?

How does that work?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#37553: Apr 15th 2016 at 3:33:16 PM

In the analogy, Whis is Alfred and Beerus is Bruce.

Which would make Vegeta and Goku Robin/Batgirl/etc.

edited 15th Apr '16 3:33:38 PM by KnownUnknown

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37554: Apr 15th 2016 at 3:55:10 PM

If it wasn't for Alfred's wisdom...I wouldn't see the connection.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#37555: Apr 15th 2016 at 3:58:54 PM

Beerus is more of a Cat-Man.

Or. Man-Cat.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#37556: Apr 15th 2016 at 3:59:47 PM

Beerus is Adam West?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#37557: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:06:33 PM

OF COURSE.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#37558: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:26:12 PM

Let's make one thing perfectly clear:

Whis is not subservient to Beerus.

Whis holds all the power in their relationship. Whis chooses who the God of Destruction is, he could very easily kill Beerus with a single attack (as he has displayed the ability to knock out Beerus with a single, casual chop) and replace him with Goku if he wished.

Beerus is at Whis' mercy, not the other way around, and it's entirely likely, and in fact most probable, that the sole reason why Whis is Beerus' attendant is because he wants to. If he didn't want to, I imagine that, for someone who could casually destroy the universe, it wouldn't be very difficult to get some servants to do it for him.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37559: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:39:46 PM

We have no idea about how their relationship started or why it is the way it is, so saying definitely either way is basically impossible.

Like, you all are just assuming Whis is the most powerful person in the universe. I mean, he is that we know of, but I thought we've moved past the point of just assuming that the strongest person we know of at the moment is the strongest ever. Because they never are.

Though, they probably won't be showing up until after Goku and Vegeta are stronger than Whis, which I'm assuming is something we all agree is going to happen eventually.

edited 15th Apr '16 4:40:33 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#37560: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:46:31 PM

I think they've made it pretty clear this time that Whis is the strongest there is in Universe 7.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37561: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:50:34 PM

I wouldn't hold my breath on that. But beyond that, Whis must have a reason he does what he does and acts as an attendant for the God of Destruction instead of just doing the job himself.

I'd admit I wouldn't call him "subservient" to Beerus but Beerus also isn't exactly at his mercy.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37562: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:54:32 PM

The assumption comes from the writer introducing a different Universe for new opponents after introducing this Whis character. Then introducing a Whis counterpart in the new Universe...who's also the strongest in that Universe.

That kind of seals the deal.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37563: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:57:02 PM

Okay then, perhaps I should have said strongest character in the series. But even so, I wouldn't be surprised if there was someone much stronger than Whis and Vados in the two universes we've been to, who's just sleeping now or something and left business to them.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#37564: Apr 15th 2016 at 5:29:41 PM

Or someone in a different universe.

Like.

Maybe Universe 1 or Universe 12.

Also, I know Whis suggested it in Battle of Gods, but I'm not sure he could replace Beerus with Goku unless Goku is likely to outlive Beerus. And I don't think he is.

I think Whis might have been joking.

I dunno why Whis is attendant instead of being a God himself, but he is. Whis may be stronger than Beerus, but I don't think he has more power in the relationship/"official"/"political" sense.

edited 15th Apr '16 5:32:00 PM by unnoun

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37565: Apr 15th 2016 at 5:32:10 PM

What do you think the chances of exploring all the universes are?

edited 15th Apr '16 5:32:21 PM by LSBK

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#37567: Apr 15th 2016 at 5:34:36 PM

Right now those other universes are the best sources of new threats.

edited 15th Apr '16 5:40:07 PM by VeryMelon

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#37568: Apr 15th 2016 at 5:38:16 PM

Or we pull a DC or Marvel and have a villain capable of threatening the entire multiverse, who subjects even Whis and Vados to the Worf Effect.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#37570: Apr 15th 2016 at 5:44:03 PM

All 12 universes are inside universe 13, right? And the tournament is in a planet there right?

What universe is universe 13 inside of?

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#37571: Apr 15th 2016 at 5:45:05 PM

There was never a Universe 13, it was just that all the universes are connected to one another in such a way that the sum of the two paired universes is 13, like Universes 6 and 7.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#37572: Apr 15th 2016 at 5:48:22 PM

I guess I misunderstood the explanation then.

...Wait, I thought all the universes were like balls. And the Supreme Kai's planet sorta orbits the rest of the universe.

So.

How can there be overlap.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#37573: Apr 15th 2016 at 5:49:58 PM

Not so much overlap as it's just possible to travel from one of the universes to its paired counterpart, at least from my understanding.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#37574: Apr 15th 2016 at 6:28:02 PM

I do believe Whis was joking when he offered Goku the position of God of Destruction. In fact, it was a callback to Kami offering Goku his position alll the way back to the 23rd Tournament.

However, just because it's a joke does not mean it's not something Whis can do. In fact, I would be surprised if it was something he can't do.

It's really not that complex - Whis is more powerful and the one in power. Being the one in power, he makes the choice to serve. Because that is what he wants to do. You say that there has to be an outside cosmic force that's forcing Whis into this position, but there does not need to be. You don't need an explanation for why Whis chooses to serve the God of Destruction, because it's not even an uncommon thing in our every day real world.

Here's a kicker: Maybe Whis himself is the cosmic force that's forcing the status quo, because it amuses him.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#37575: Apr 15th 2016 at 7:04:53 PM

I like Vados' VA. It's Nico Robin, right? She does the perfect sort of cheery Deadpan Snarker and comes off as even more devastating than Whis at tearing down people.


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