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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#36876: Apr 2nd 2016 at 2:10:58 PM

"You know I'm threatening to blow up the Earth, right?"

"Yeah, shoosh, we've got stuff to do."

edited 2nd Apr '16 2:11:07 PM by BaconManiac5000

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#36877: Apr 2nd 2016 at 2:18:58 PM

Actually, the guy's full name is Majin Ozotto; make of that what you will.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#36878: Apr 2nd 2016 at 2:22:08 PM

Behold,Freecelluu!

Sounds like a cellphone advertisement in engrish.

edited 2nd Apr '16 2:27:38 PM by alekos23

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
plays capoeira
#36880: Apr 2nd 2016 at 2:25:25 PM

Ozotto could very easily be a villain that presents a different kind of challenge, simply by tricking the Z fighters into fighting each other instead of him.
That I will give you. I also admit I like his four arms and fat design more than his second form Cell design.

Buldogue's lawyer
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#36881: Apr 2nd 2016 at 5:51:58 PM

It's a popular point in time to stage things because it's the only place in the series where all of the following are true:
  • Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo are all available.
  • Future Trunks is around.
  • Gohan is a Super Siayan.

To expand on this, this is also one of the points that had the series at its highest popularity (the other being the end of the Freeza arc). The Freeza arc was generally more popular due to Freeza and the final battle, but the appeal in the Android arc was in its ensemble cast. Piccolo gets his own fusion, everyone's a Super Saiyan, and it's easier to ignore the imbalance in power compared to the Freeza arc.

So when you're dealing with anything with a group cast, this becomes the go-to cast due to the perceived balance in power (these five are usually portrayed as mostly equal, despite having clear differences in the manga - Piccolo/Vegeta/Trunks far below Goku & Goku far below Gohan).

This "ensemble cast" feel is also why this is was used so much in promotional art for the early 90's. That's where a lot of the really fucking cool promotional artwork comes from, which then feeds into feelings of nostalgia and popularity for this era.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36882: Apr 2nd 2016 at 5:59:05 PM

That's where a lot of the really fucking cool promotional artwork comes from

Oh yes.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#36883: Apr 2nd 2016 at 6:03:01 PM

I guess that explains why I've always liked the Androids and Cell arc more than the Namek arc.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#36884: Apr 2nd 2016 at 8:51:54 PM

Though the Boo arc and Saiyan/Namek arcs do also get their share of the cool art.

Here's a tumblr that collects the art with the same 80s - 90s style. Awww yeah.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#36886: Apr 2nd 2016 at 10:51:43 PM

The old promotional artwork was so damn cool. I was thinking "why does Super do stuff like this?" And then I remembered Super doesn't have a proper ensemble cast. There's plenty of Goku/Vegeta artwork, but not much else.

Also something to do with Tadayoshi Yamamuro or something

edited 2nd Apr '16 10:52:34 PM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#36887: Apr 2nd 2016 at 11:31:58 PM

Watching the latest episode: Cabba taking the same stance Vegeta did and firing a Gallick Gun was pretty cool. Far as I can tell, Vegeta did exactly the same thing with Cabba that Goku does with Uub, except Vegeta says that he'll destroy Cabba's entire planet and kill everyone on it. Vegeta and Cabba being even in base and then even as Super Saiyans basically Josses the whole 'decreasing multiplier' theory 100%. Looks like it is, and always will be, a 50x increase. Yamcha says things throughout the episode, so it's cool that he continues to exist. Vegeta shows Cabba Super Saiyan Blue, then one-shots him. I can't understand Japanese, but someone in the comments who apparently can says that Vegeta promises to train Cabba after the tournament.

New end credits trying to play to my nostalgia by having Goku with Nyoi-bo and Kinto-un. New end credits succeeds. Next episode preview shows Hit punking Vegeta in Super Saiyan Blue.

edited 2nd Apr '16 11:32:55 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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Ghost '11
#36888: Apr 3rd 2016 at 12:14:17 AM

That's a heck of a lotta artwork!!

...and something that's not Dragon Ball related for some reason.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#36889: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:12:17 AM

My current theory about how Goku and Vegeta work at the moment: they basically have four forms, base, base with Godly Ki (call it Saiyan Beyond God if you wish), Super Saiyan 1, and Super Saiyan Blue. Saiyan Beyond God and Super Saiyan 1 are interchangeable in terms of power and are both intermediary steps to Super Saiyan Blue. Base + SS1 + Godly Ki = Super Saiyan Blue, just as much as Base + Godly Ki + SS1 = Super Saiyan Blue.

My currently theoretical Power Levels (divided by 1 billion for sanity):

Beerus: 10,000

Champa: 9,000

Whis: 15,000

Vados: 17,000

Goku and Vegeta: 3.2

Goku and Vegeta (SS1 or Godly Ki): 160

Goku and Vegeta (SSB): 8,000

Mr. Buu: 20

Piccolo: 50

Botamo: 0.5 (immune to damage)

Frost (1st): 2.8

Frost (Assault): 4.2

Frost (Final): 84

Magetta (full power): 200

Magetta (red aura charge): 400

Cabba: 3

Cabba (SS1): 150

Hit: anywhere from 8,500-20,000

for context, characters from DBZ:

100% Freeza: 0.12

Super Perfect Cell: 6.3

Kid Buu: 30

SS1 Vegetto: 250

edited 3rd Apr '16 2:19:50 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#36891: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:24:06 AM

Thanks. I do too.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#36892: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:24:13 AM

Wouldn't that add up to Super Saiyan Blue being a 2500 times boost? I don't think it'd be possible for Super Saiyan Blue to only be 6.25x stronger than Super Saiyan 3, simply because of how massive the difference in power was between Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Beerus was. >.>

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#36893: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:30:42 AM

You'd be surprised by how much of a stomp even a 2x difference makes. tongue

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#36894: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:35:22 AM

Obviously Base Goku currently is WAY stronger than he was during the Buu Saga due to retaining Super Saiyan God's power, Whis' training, an indeterminate amount of time in Godly HTC, and 3 years with Vegeta in the normal HTC. Beginning of Super Goku and Vegeta would be 90,000,000; a 0.09 on my scale above.

edited 3rd Apr '16 2:42:29 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#36895: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:36:08 AM

[up][up] Even when God Goku is only a 6 to Beerus' 10, and according to Super Goku didn't even make him use 10% of his power? Doesn't help that Super has pretty much stated that Super Saiyan Blue is actually stronger than Super Saiyan God, and not just as strong as it.

edited 3rd Apr '16 2:36:41 AM by Ssj3Gojira

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#36896: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:38:22 AM

I think Blue is still stronger than God, and Goku in Super is still approximately 60% of Beerus.

[up]Not to me but the above still applies.

edited 3rd Apr '16 2:40:52 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#36897: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:44:15 AM

[up][up]Oh wow,Super said that?Such powerwank. [lol]

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#36898: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:47:19 AM

[up][up] ...you are aware that if Goku's base is a 0.09 on your scale, then in order for it to get to 6000, or 60% of Beerus' 10,000, Super Saiyan God would need to be over 66,000 times base in order to work.

edited 3rd Apr '16 2:47:45 AM by Ssj3Gojira

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#36899: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:48:28 AM

[up][up]Super did not, in fact, say that.

[up]It is a huge increase, though Super Saiyan God is not a set multiplier and works in mysterious ways. Goku retained the power from Super Saiyan God, putting his base at 2,400,000,000 in order for Godly Ki + Super Saiyan 1 to equal Super Saiyan God. Goku got stronger from there and absorbed more Godly Ki from the Godly HTC, turning his Super Saiyan a lovely shade of blue.

edited 3rd Apr '16 2:53:57 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#36900: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:49:47 AM

Super had Beerus saying that he only used 10% of his power on the enraged Vegeta, which was enough to practically no-sell everything Vegeta had been doing.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!

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