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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#36626: Mar 28th 2016 at 3:25:52 AM

Being a Djinn and looking like a blackface stereotype aren't mutually exclusive things.

edited 28th Mar '16 4:55:05 AM by unnoun

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#36627: Mar 28th 2016 at 3:58:29 AM

What you're thinking of is "Being a Djinn and looking like a blackface stereotype aren't mutually exclusive", because Mr. Popo is not meant to be a caricature of black people, he just looks like it because Toriyama.

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#36629: Mar 28th 2016 at 4:56:41 AM

[up][up][up] I never said that they were.

edited 28th Mar '16 4:56:47 AM by Zelenal

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#36630: Mar 28th 2016 at 4:58:25 AM

I'm just saying that.

Mr. Popo being a Djinn doesn't make the uncomfortable aspects of his design okay.

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#36631: Mar 28th 2016 at 5:37:42 AM

His design looks pretty cool though.

You've got a gutter placed mind.

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#36632: Mar 28th 2016 at 5:47:51 AM

[up][up]What's uncomfortable about his design?

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#36633: Mar 28th 2016 at 5:56:30 AM

I believe the last page has gone into detail with what's considered wrong about his design.

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#36634: Mar 28th 2016 at 7:12:32 AM

No, being black face and being a dijinni are most definitely not mutually exclusive.

For instance, in orthodox Islam, Satan is said to be a dijinni, because the(orthodox) religion teaches that it is impossible for angels to fall. In the Sirat Rasul Allah, Iblis(Satan) is described as a black man with long hair.(specially, he was said to look like Nabtal, a black man who had annoyed the prophet)

Inverting a satanic image to the side of the heroes is something Toriyama did with Piccolo and Mr Satan, so I wouldn't be surprised if Popo was deliberate.

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#36635: Mar 28th 2016 at 9:28:37 AM

Don't you mean the anime? Yamcha, Ten and Chiaotzu weren't returned to Earth in the manga. Only Kuririn was returned to Earth and that is because his soul was summoned to Earth and Porunga created his body himself.

The anime shows those three resurrected on Earth and that's where the inconsistency is.

Yes, I mean the anime. >.<

So many Cabba's ignorance of Super Saiyan will wind up on him growing extremely strong up to this point.

Which does make some degree of sense. Cabba didn't have a x50, x100, or x400 multiplier to make him one of the most powerful warriors in the universe. He had to get there in his base form. So you take that strength and then add the x50 multiplier to it and you get, well...one of the most powerful warriors in the universe x50.

In essence, he is to his universe what Ultimate Gohan was to U7, except now he's 50x that. If Ultimate Gohan could go Super Saiyan on top of a power that already surpassed Goku's Super Saiyan 3, he would be over 20,000x Goku's base power at the time. That is an immense jump. If Cabba is even more powerful than Ultimate Gohan was, I can believe his first time as a Super Saiyan giving the Saiyan Gods a run for their money.

Cabba's base is as strong as God-Ki enhanced Vegeta. That... does not make a lick of sense.

Frieza was able to match them by training really hard. No reason Cabba couldn't do the same. Maybe he has better training options than Vegeta's gravity chamber or Goku's Kai-summoned weights.

Well, I'm pretty sure Red, Black, Blue, Purple, ect. are actually codenames so Black is only called Black because Red is probably racist.

Why would they be codenames?

edited 28th Mar '16 9:30:48 AM by TobiasDrake

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#36637: Mar 28th 2016 at 11:01:44 AM

Cabba trained in a Black Hole.

I want that to be a thing at some point.

Just so we can say we've reached the limit of ridiculous gravity training.

edited 28th Mar '16 11:09:07 AM by unnoun

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#36638: Mar 28th 2016 at 11:22:20 AM

Nobody has said that Cabba is actually as strong as Vegeta. Like all the other matches, it seems like Vegeta has been holding back immensely. I feel like he's only transforming because Cabba actually impressed him. You know, to show how farther he has to go.

I was getting a little annoyed at how Goku and Vegeta have been holding back the entire tournament and nothing has realistically challenged them. Then I realised that happened in the 22nd tournament. Goku was stronger than everyone, but didn't show his full power until the fight with Tenshinhan.

It's still annoying, but...at least there's a precedent?

edited 28th Mar '16 11:22:39 AM by LOLypop1224

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#36639: Mar 28th 2016 at 11:35:11 AM

I'm not bothered by it. If there's no organic reason for anyone in Universe 6 to be as powerful as Champa is, then they shouldn't be.

edited 28th Mar '16 11:35:37 AM by VeryMelon

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#36640: Mar 28th 2016 at 11:38:03 AM

[up][up]It's completely in character for Goku: hold back and draw out the fight for the sake of having fun. Especially in a tournament fight where your life (and the lives of your planet's population) isn't on the line.

Vegeta, I would guess, is doing the same thing. As a Saiyan, he would enjoy fighting for its own sake, we just don't see a lot of this with him because of his obsession with defeating Goku. Now that he's up against other opponents with relatively low stakes for the fight, why wouldn't be try to have some fun?

edited 28th Mar '16 11:38:20 AM by DarkHunter

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#36641: Mar 28th 2016 at 11:43:09 AM

Hit will probably force them to make an effort.

Also, bit of a waste of Buu and specially Piccolo. If Vegeta's going to lose and tag Goku in, we could have seen more fights that didn't involve Saiyans holding back.

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#36642: Mar 28th 2016 at 11:46:52 AM

Not sure about the manga, but Piccolo got a decent showing. It just sucks that he got DQ'd so Vegeta could pull a Saitama.

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#36643: Mar 28th 2016 at 11:53:12 AM

In the manga he seemed even with Frost before poison. Then again, this is the guy who was training by sparring on even grounds with Gohan.

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#36644: Mar 28th 2016 at 12:30:45 PM

Cabba trained in a Black Hole.

I want that to be a thing at some point.

Just so we can say we've reached the limit of ridiculous gravity training.

Does anyone remember where the Black Hole training theory came from, back when ROF was still being announced?

Someone in another thread credited it to me and I would love to take credit for it but I honestly can't recall.

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#36645: Mar 28th 2016 at 12:36:56 PM

Well it's not like it'd work anyway; the center of a black hole has infinite gravity, so even quantum particles would be smashed into oblivion. There's literally no possible way for a three dimensional being to survive being in the center of one.

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#36646: Mar 28th 2016 at 12:38:43 PM

Like that's ever stopped anyone in this series.

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#36647: Mar 28th 2016 at 12:40:54 PM

No see, you're thinking of Gurren Lagann; this series still has characters with definable limits, as Beerus at his max is less than 50% of Goku's power at this point, and Whis is 50% of that.

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#36648: Mar 28th 2016 at 12:44:33 PM

"Beerus at his max is less than fifty percent"

WAIT WHAT!

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#36649: Mar 28th 2016 at 12:45:07 PM

Uhm, since when did Goku become twice as strong as Beerus and four times as strong as Whis?

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#36650: Mar 28th 2016 at 12:59:24 PM

No see, you're thinking of Gurren Lagann; this series still has characters with definable limits, as Beerus at his max is less than 50% of Goku's power at this point, and Whis is 50% of that.

Sidestepping the questionable percentages here as, to my knowledge, Goku and Vegeta haven't even come remotely close to surpassing Beerus, let alone Whis.

Those limits only exist relative to each other. They've long since passed the point where they can be defined as "planet buster" or "galaxy buster". Super Perfect Cell was a solar system buster. Pure Buu tore a hole between dimensions with an angsty scream. Goku and Beerus nearly shattered the entire universe with shockwaves put off from their blows impacting. And the characters have only gotten stronger from there.

edited 28th Mar '16 1:00:46 PM by TobiasDrake

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