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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#36501: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:38:52 PM

Meanwhile, crocodiles are just hanging out not changing much in millions of years and going, "Nice iPhone. You're doing a bang-up job making the planet uninhabitable for yourselves. Check back with me in a billion years if you're still around, and then we can talk about how you won at evolution and are the best species ever to exist."

We'll make you go extinct long before we destroy ourselves, though, and there's nothing you can do about it. If you are so hot at the survival game, why aren't you preventing that, hotshots?

edited 26th Mar '16 12:39:05 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#36502: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:44:13 PM

You know, there's something I never understood - what happened to the two absorbed Supreme Kais? I mean, they weren't eaten, so they weren't digested.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#36503: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:44:32 PM

We keep talking about biology in this thread...

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36504: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:48:55 PM

I'm not one of those guys who's going to go on an on about how humans are the worst thing to ever happen to the planet and should just go extinct but the mentality of "We are absolutely superior to everything else on the planet" is one of the many reasons we're fucking ourselves over and it always comes off as pretty obnoxious.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#36505: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:51:59 PM

Thing is, we kind of are superior to everything else in the planet. If we weren't, we wouldn't be able to destroy it because something else, something above us, would be stopping us. There's literally nothing living in this planet that we cannot find a way to kill.

Also, in a billion years, humanity will very likely have evolved beyond the need for a planet at all, so we'll let the crocodiles have Earth.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36506: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:54:10 PM

You're assuming humans will be here in billions of years. Species generally don't last anywhere near that long and we're actively bringing the world closer to a state where we, and everything else won't survive. That's not very superior.

Also, just the general line of thinking "I'm better than you because I can wipe you and everything like you off the face of the planet" is a frankly, fucking awful line of thought. Not really sure if you want to go there.

edited 26th Mar '16 12:59:16 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#36507: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:58:11 PM

Pff, the whole "we're destroying the planet we live in, clearly we're not superior" thing is hilarious to me. I have no fear of humanity making the planet uninhabitable before we no longer need it, and neither should you, because that is a silly fear, given that humanity's advancement has only become faster as time progresses.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#36508: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:59:52 PM

Being superior doesn't equal being better.

Humans are objectively the superior species on Earth, that's why we dominate over pretty much all animal and vegetal species in existence. That doesn't mean we're any better for the planet itself, but then again, they aren't supposed to be equivalent concepts.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36509: Mar 26th 2016 at 1:00:32 PM

Do I think it'll happen? No. Do I think it's a real possibility? Yes. It's a bit naive of you to just dismiss it off hand based on human greatness or whatever.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#36510: Mar 26th 2016 at 1:03:43 PM

Naive?

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#36511: Mar 26th 2016 at 1:06:02 PM

'Greatness' isn't directly linked to 'goodness' or 'convenience' either. A flood, an earthquake, a massacre can all be labeled 'The Great Disaster of—'. The only qualifier for greatness is a grandiose stature and relevance, not any sort of moral or ethical parameter.

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#36513: Mar 26th 2016 at 1:33:07 PM

I'll just put it this way, ecologists, conservationists, biologists, the people who come up with terms like "sentience" and "sapience", the people who study Latin for the sole purpose of categorizing their findings? They don't tend to buy into "human is the best animal", they tend to be misanthropes.

It's people in politics, religion, entertainment, philosophy, marketing and industry who tend to misinterpret things like "sentience" and "sapience" as "better" and "best".

And to think we can destroy the planet, a little far fetched with our current tools. We cannot even destroy the moon(yet, I'm sure under the never ending advancement of science we will eventually repay the sun for its eons of loyalty that it has outlived its usefulness). Master Roshi, on the other hand, does live in a world where humans can destroy the moon, but it is also a world where humans are clearly inferior to saiyans and nameks, human-saiyan hybrids not withstanding, or at least will be till Uub comes. Luckily all the female saiyans are done or a saiyan human hybrid fathered by Uub would likely end all things...all things done by anyone else.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#36514: Mar 26th 2016 at 1:46:14 PM

Well, not to get into the argument, but we can end the world, just not quickly...

Unless we go all nuclear on each other.

Ironically enough, the existence of nukes proves both sides. We were dumb enough to create weapons that we could wipe each other out with, but smart enough to realize it would be an awful idea to ever use them.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#36515: Mar 26th 2016 at 1:47:58 PM

Plus, letting loose every single last one of them at the same time would probably generate enough radioactive fallout that we'd probably make the Earth uninhabitable for anything for at least a few eons.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#36516: Mar 26th 2016 at 2:05:57 PM

Humans should unite against those filthy green slug people stealing all our water!

Just to steer this back into an on-topic direction.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#36517: Mar 26th 2016 at 2:07:13 PM

More specifically, the giant fat slug man who drank all the water.

Going on another tangent, what would happen if everyone got Digimon partners?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#36518: Mar 26th 2016 at 2:13:01 PM

Everyone in Dragonball?

The digimon would be pushed to the sidelines in favour of Goku and Vegeta.evil grin

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#36519: Mar 26th 2016 at 2:17:47 PM

Toei's QUALITY goes doubly as bad as usual.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#36520: Mar 26th 2016 at 2:21:48 PM

More specially, what Digimon would they even get; we do have a green dragon in Dracomon...

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#36521: Mar 26th 2016 at 2:28:15 PM

Goku gets Agumon.

Goku eats Agumon, comments that was the oddest tasting dinosaur he's even eaten, but that he wouldn't mind having another.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#36522: Mar 26th 2016 at 2:30:46 PM

I have a question. I understand that Vegeta wanted to fight Frost, but I'm a bit confused by the ruling.

Frost cheated against Piccolo and Goku. They disqualify Frost and give Piccolo the victory, but Vegeta says no because he wants to fight Frost, leaving him as the only member of their team. Okay.

Now, the obvious thing they would do is overturn Goku's loss as well, since he was also cheated out of a victory by Frost and as I suspected, they went that angle. But then... shouldn't that mean that Frost was still disqualified without fighting Vegeta? How can they say "No, the disqualification doesn't count except when it does"? It kinda just feels like a screw you to Piccolo, honestly.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#36524: Mar 26th 2016 at 7:52:47 PM

Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu being returned to Earth is the inconsistency and it's one that only exists in the manga.

Don't you mean the anime? Yamcha, Ten and Chiaotzu weren't returned to Earth in the manga. Only Kuririn was returned to Earth and that is because his soul was summoned to Earth and Porunga created his body himself.

The anime shows those three resurrected on Earth and that's where the inconsistency is.

And even if those are their bodies, Piccolo should have been sent straight back to Earth when was revived like the other fighters. This happened to Piccolo in the manga, so the manga is the one not constant since the anime followed the manga in this example.

No, the manga is the one that is constant because being revived after you've been given a body means being revived where you currently are. It happened to Goku, Piccolo and Vegeta. The people who were revived where they died weren't ever seen being given bodies in the afterlife.

It's the anime who makes this mistake by showing people with afterlife bodies revived on Earth.

edited 26th Mar '16 7:55:47 PM by Saiga

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#36525: Mar 26th 2016 at 8:49:13 PM

New DBS is out! Vegeta wins, Magetta cries.

Next week: Vegeta has to go SSJB just to fight the newly SSJ Cabba.

How strong is that tiny muffin...

edited 26th Mar '16 8:49:49 PM by Rinsankajugin


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