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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#36226: Mar 21st 2016 at 7:21:10 PM

Can you really call that sample romance?

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#36227: Mar 21st 2016 at 7:26:34 PM

Ms. Marvel and Marcus Immortus.

I win.

Only Marvel Comics fans will understand why I win, but I still win.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#36228: Mar 21st 2016 at 7:37:17 PM

He's really not wrong. At least Sakura and Sasuke probably consented to the sex that led to Salad's birth.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#36229: Mar 21st 2016 at 7:39:07 PM

Their sex led to the creation of Salad?

A necessary evil for such a positive result.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#36230: Mar 21st 2016 at 7:48:05 PM

How the hell did Vegeta know what a pancake is?

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#36231: Mar 21st 2016 at 7:55:07 PM

Because pancakes are the source of true peace in the universe.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#36232: Mar 21st 2016 at 8:02:15 PM

Pushover Media Critic, I know this is very late on your Superman post, but I want to agree with this.

The thing that pissed me off about the Death Battle is not Goku lost. It's the reason why he lost. Superman have no limits is bullshit. I like Superman, not as much as Goku, but I respect him a lot more than I did when I was younger because I finally saw that he wasn't some boring, invincible hero. He has limits, something that he fully acknowledge. He can do a lot of heavy lifting, but he still needs help from time to time, and he know it.

The fact that Death Battle pushed that Superman has no limits, takes the true characterization of Superman and takes a big fat dump on it. Which is why I can understand why Superman fans were mad at Death Battle. They gave him the victory over Goku, but took away everything that makes him interesting in the process and reduced him to shadow of what he is from the general public.

On Videl, this is very classic Culture Clash along with generational. In Japan, a woman getting married and raising a family is seen as the ultimate happy ending. So to Toriyama, 18 and Videl settling down and raising happy families is the best ending for them. Besides, characters becoming useless isn't limited to just women, but the entire human cast. People who want the humans to have a bigger role is mostly a vocal minority since most fans are happy just letting the Saiyans and Piccolo run the show, with the humans making use of themselves every now and then. Also, the comparison to Batman doesn't really work since Batman has his own series and is his own entity outside of the other super heroes, although I would argue that Batman working alone may have cause more problems than it solves since the comics can't come up with a convincing reason why Superman or anyone else can't help keep Gothem clean or why the criminal justice system is such a joke that the Joker is still alive or not transfer to a more secure prison.

If Dragon Ball had side-stories or a series that shows the human cast, that's fine, but only few would want to watch the human struggle with a conflict that Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan, Goten, or Trunks can end in five minutes.

edited 21st Mar '16 8:13:41 PM by Ramona122003

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36233: Mar 21st 2016 at 8:07:44 PM

[up][up]Agreed. Vegeta should go to IHOP sometime.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#36234: Mar 21st 2016 at 8:20:05 PM

He apparently likes his pancakes very flat.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#36235: Mar 21st 2016 at 8:22:29 PM

So he either likes Swedish pancakes, or crepes.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#36236: Mar 21st 2016 at 8:26:15 PM

I've been dying to taste a crepe one day...Vegeta must have a great taste in food.

I live near New Orleans, it shouldn't be that hard for me to get my hands on some.

edited 21st Mar '16 8:27:10 PM by hardcorefakes

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#36237: Mar 21st 2016 at 8:55:25 PM

To be fair, Vegeta was fine once he started fighting Magetta. It was just the whole Frost fiasco that got me annoyed.

Anyway, about Krillin and 18...it's pretty obvious 18 was introduced as a bone to throw to Krillin. From the moment she kisses him. But at least Toriyama tries to show Krillin actually being attracted to her. But as everyone was saying, at least we never got to see HOW 18 decided to reciprocate. Because, knowing this genre, it would probably be completely stupid and nonsensical.

But, hey, at least 18 doesn't become a housewife. And Super did that nice part where Krillin looked after Marron while 18 fought Beerus. Remember that? I'm remembering that.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#36238: Mar 21st 2016 at 8:57:17 PM

Didn't 18 become a housewife when she didn't go fight Frieza's army and let Krillin do it instead?

edited 21st Mar '16 8:57:53 PM by hardcorefakes

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#36239: Mar 21st 2016 at 9:15:23 PM

pretty much. There was a period there at the beginning of Super where I thought it'd be different, but it isn't. Not anymore.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#36240: Mar 21st 2016 at 9:19:11 PM

To be fair, didn't the English dub of Resurrection F have Krillin straight up tell 18 that she needed to stay behind to protect Marron or something?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#36241: Mar 21st 2016 at 9:20:05 PM

[up][up]I honestly believe Toriyama doesn't know what to do with some of his characters anymore. Can't have them in fights, but you can't get rid of them without your fanbase revolting. So now they're just kind of "there."

edited 21st Mar '16 9:20:23 PM by hardcorefakes

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#36242: Mar 21st 2016 at 9:32:03 PM

To be fair, he's kind of always been like that. Literally since the first arc. I mean, what did Puar ever do? Even when he was introduced?

It's just now the problem is even more obvious because there's new material for us to look over.

At least you can use Power Levels as an excuse for characters not participating nowadays...as opposed to them just inexplicably not being there.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#36243: Mar 21st 2016 at 9:44:54 PM

[up]Agreed. Also, keep in mind that he can no longer justify Goku and Vegeta just getting their asses kicked separately, when we know for a fact that fusion is on the table. So there's no reason to not see Gogeta sometime soon, assuming he asspulls some reason for why Goku and Vegeta don't fuse into Vegito.

Hell, you don't even need earrings to do it, just do a dance for f*ck's sake.

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#36244: Mar 21st 2016 at 10:50:03 PM

@Ramona 122003 Thank you. Nice to see a kindred spirit. Yeah, the Dragon Ball fanboy part of me is slightly miffed that Goku lost, but the DC fanboy part of me is absolutely furious that Superman is being misrepresented that much.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#36246: Mar 22nd 2016 at 12:45:48 AM

[up][up][up] It's why I'm honestly not a fan of Fusion. It's just too...good. I understand it had to be that great to justify Gotenks being able able to beat Buu, but...there aren't enough drawbacks to it. There's no reason why people don't fuse all the time, except for maybe that the villain won't give them time to do it.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#36247: Mar 22nd 2016 at 12:46:36 AM

[up][up][up]So wait...are you saying Super Man can't just sit in the Sun for who knows how long and basically be invincible?

You're saying there is actually a limit to how strong he is?

[up]Isn't the drawback power level gap, needing the time to fuse, getting the fusion dance right, and the time limit?

edited 22nd Mar '16 12:50:11 AM by randomness4

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#36248: Mar 22nd 2016 at 12:56:17 AM

Getting the fusion dance right is an issue that I can't imagine ever being brought up again. Even when it was in Fusion Reborn, they had to jump through hoops to justify fat Gogeta surviving that long.

edited 22nd Mar '16 12:56:46 AM by LOLypop1224

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#36249: Mar 22nd 2016 at 1:36:34 AM

The whole 'Golden God Superman' story was just a what-if. Besides, Superman sitting in a yellow star is an established way of making him stronger, also establishing his limits as being things that exist. Supes isn't infinity, since you can't go higher than infinity.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#36250: Mar 22nd 2016 at 1:41:42 AM

Of course not, Infinity isn't a set thing.

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