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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#36076: Mar 19th 2016 at 1:43:59 PM

A discussion about real-world biology in a thread about Dragon Ball, where biology is horseshit. Never thought I'd see the day.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#36077: Mar 19th 2016 at 1:45:31 PM

Well, to be fair, it did come from an even stranger discussion about why dragons kidnap princesses.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#36078: Mar 19th 2016 at 2:05:11 PM

So we've come to the conclusion that dragons kidnap princesses because of their opposable thumbs.

Also, when people do the whole "the dog is the superior species, having the man-animal shepherded around" thing, I will promptly ask if those people consider their toys to be superior beings.

Because that's what pets are to us, in the end. They're toys, they're there to amuse us.

I, Humanity, grabbed a vicious monster willing to rip your face off and feast on your entrails and turned it into a pink, fluffy toy, because It Amused Me.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36079: Mar 19th 2016 at 2:06:45 PM

Could we move away from this conversation already?

Yes, humanity is awesome, we get it. It's getting weird with how intense you all are being.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#36080: Mar 19th 2016 at 2:09:45 PM

So what kind of fusions do we want to see?

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#36081: Mar 19th 2016 at 2:24:22 PM

Perfect Cellza.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#36082: Mar 19th 2016 at 2:35:47 PM

I mean, I'm doubtful of the idea that humans are awesome.

Like. We're kinda fucking over everything on the planet (including ourselves) a lot. All for minor short term gains.

That shows power, but it also shows stupidity.

Just look at Universe 6.

We fucked ourselves over, and the universe is better without us.

edited 19th Mar '16 2:37:20 PM by unnoun

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#36083: Mar 19th 2016 at 3:05:20 PM

On the other hand, we invented time travel, in a way that the goddess of time didn't even think was possible. Even if we fuck up the world irreparably, we can just use the Time Machine to go invade some other Earth.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#36084: Mar 19th 2016 at 3:12:28 PM

Well it's not true time travel either, since a) time travel is actually physically impossible unless you travel through space as well, and b) they never went backwards within their own timeline, they either went backwards across timelines, or they just caused the timeline to split, which doesn't actually fix any problems with your own timeline, unless you're Whis who can rewind time for the entire universe.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#36085: Mar 19th 2016 at 3:18:49 PM

[up][up]I'm pretty sure she's talking about irl.

But in-universe, if humanity fucked over the earth, the Dragon Balls are always an option.

edited 19th Mar '16 3:19:19 PM by BaconManiac5000

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#36086: Mar 19th 2016 at 3:50:32 PM

IRL and Universe 6.

And even the time travel is less something "we" did and more something Bulma did.

And the Goddess of Time is doing things to prevent time travel and prevent further splitting of timelines.

If we tried to invade some other Earth we'd find Dumplin waiting for us.

And, again, fucking over some other world is another example of that "short term gain, long term stupidity" problem.

Not fucking over the Earth we've got is a better solution overall. For ourselves and all other Earths.

edited 19th Mar '16 3:53:28 PM by unnoun

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#36087: Mar 19th 2016 at 4:12:04 PM

Yes, humanity is awesome, we get it

I think you're in the wrong thread, friend. The threads you're looking for are Gurren Lagann and Attack on Titan.

edited 19th Mar '16 4:12:50 PM by Soble

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#36088: Mar 19th 2016 at 4:16:50 PM

Yeah, 'round here, in Dragon Ball, Humans are doomed to obscurity by their Saiyan overlords.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#36089: Mar 19th 2016 at 4:42:43 PM

I mean.

If not for humans, Saiyans wouldn't be as strong as they are?

Like.

Who Goku is, and the kind of fighter he is depends a lot on what he learned on Earth.

Kakarot started off as a low class Saiyan, and if he was kept in Saiyan culture that's probably all he would have been. Because that's what Saiyans seemed to believe.

Vegeta would never have gotten as strong as he does without Bulma's gravity chamber.

So.

I mean. It seems Cabba can't go Super Saiyan?

edited 19th Mar '16 4:43:58 PM by unnoun

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#36090: Mar 19th 2016 at 4:46:55 PM

Actually, Cabba wasn't aware that Saiyans could transform at all. As in, he doesn't seem to know about Oozaru.

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#36092: Mar 19th 2016 at 4:49:12 PM

It makes sense when you remember that U6 Saiyans have ditched their tails through evolution.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#36093: Mar 19th 2016 at 4:49:34 PM

Saiyans don't have tails in Universe 6; they apparently evolved the transformation out of their genome. No idea if they actually don't have Super Saiyan though; remember that the form itself was nothing but a legend before Goku ascended against Frieza. It's entirely possible that the Saiyans in Universe 6 just never met the requirements to actually receive the form.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36094: Mar 19th 2016 at 4:52:17 PM

Even as a low-class Saiyan he'd still be leagues beyond most of what's on earth. The lower gravity and stuff atrophied him.

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#36095: Mar 19th 2016 at 5:00:54 PM

Plus they thought Frost had was a hero and likely had no motivation to try and become Super Saiyans.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#36096: Mar 19th 2016 at 5:01:03 PM

[up][up]But the people Goku knows and the attitude of surpassing his limits and learning more and more about martial arts is more important than that.

The very concept of a low class Saiyan rivaling an Elite is something Vegeta considers impossible, but, as a result of Goku's willingness to train to surpass himself, with Roshi, and Korin, and Kami and King Kai, he's able to hold his own against Vegeta, and his friends are able to get Vegeta to go away.

And the next time they meet, Goku's trained and Vegeta hasn't. And Goku's way above Vegeta.

edited 19th Mar '16 5:06:14 PM by unnoun

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#36097: Mar 19th 2016 at 5:16:48 PM

Saiyans don't have tails in Universe 6; they apparently evolved the transformation out of their genome.

...Super has officially rendered me flaccid.

It'd be so easy to just have the Saiyans wrap their tails around themselves like belts if you don't want to draw tails in motion. Why does this sequel series hate me so much?

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#36098: Mar 19th 2016 at 5:21:44 PM

Apparently they just never really had a need for the Great Ape form at all, so it just kind of left their genetic code after numerous generations.

Also, unrelated, but the Transformation page on the Dragon Ball Wiki, while it mentions all the Saiyan transformations that have shown up in the entire franchise, it ultimately breaks it down into seven groups, based on chronological order; Great Ape, Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan God SS, and Super Saiyan 4. It makes me realize that there's technically seven main transformations for Saiyans in this franchise.

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#36100: Mar 19th 2016 at 7:39:26 PM

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