Old Kai said that the kind of destruction Beerus brings is petty and pointless. He destroy planets for not serving him good food, food that is too greasy, or because people won't give him or surrender food when he tries to steal it. He destroys King Kai's planet for either losing a video game or hide-and-seek.
So, his job of God of Destruction doesn't excuse Beerus' pettiness and Disproportionate Retributions. So in terms of being an asshole, Beerus is a bigger one than Vegeta. Fans only give him a pass or try to excuse his actions because he's amusing.
There also isn't another timeline where Frieza blows up the Earth. Whis didn't travel back through time, he outright rewind time for the entire universe so Frieza never destroyed the Earth to begin with and only the people within Whis' bubble have memories of it.
edited 9th Mar '16 6:17:48 PM by Ramona122003
Beerus wasn't that petty, pre super. When people give Beerus a pass they're thinking "Battle Of Gods\Revival Of F'' Beerus, or maybe "Xenoverse" Beerus, whose worst crime was destroying a planet he thought could be restored. It's like when people suspect Vados of having some sinister agenda, it's manga! Vados they're talking about, not anime! Vados.
edit:Okay, Beerus also destroyed a galaxy, now that I think of it, but until context is given there is no reason to assume it was a populated galaxy, right?
edited 9th Mar '16 7:35:12 PM by IndirectActiveTransport
Buldogue's lawyerThe reason why Beerus' pettiness are giving a pass in Battle of Gods is because it was all Offstage Villainy. We heard about Beerus being a planet destroyer and that he even destroyed King Kai's planet for no good reason, but we never saw him do his job. It was actually a joke about Beerus being the worst God of Destruction ever since he doesn't destroy anything. It isn't until Super that we fully see the extent of his pettiness. Now, you can just hand wave this as Adaptational Villainy, but given that he was going to destroy the Earth and the solar system over pudding, nothing he does in Super is out character for him.
Still, Beerus is funny and amusing, so fans downplay what a dick he is.
Vados is a grey area since with Frost, she does have some shadiness, but the manga really amps it up to the point that she can be seen as almost villainous.
edited 9th Mar '16 7:54:30 PM by Ramona122003
Vados strikes me as the definition of amoral. She's not evil, at least she's not trying to be. But Vados doesn't give a shit about how her actions may harm people. Is she apathetic? Maybe, but we haven't seen enough and she might begrudgingly care for Whis or unironically Pet the Dog at some point. She's the kind of person who'd give money to charity and steal from the bank out of whimsy, giving no fucks.
Vados, Champa and Frost aren't mirror counterparts to Whis, Beerus and Freeza]; they're shadow counterparts. Whis and Vados are neutral parties, but Vados chooses to use it to dick around while Whis acts responsibly. Champa and Beerus are petulent jackasses, but Champa's the more level-headed and lazy one compared to Beerus being really petty but urbane. Finally, [[spoiler:Frost and Frieza are both heartless genocidal maniacs because It's All About Me, but while the latter is open and lives for the terror of others, the former is a cold-blooded manipulator who wears a mask of heroism to fit him, and all that matters is results.
I'm surprised they still have so many GT cards in Heroes. Also, that Videl card made me happy.
I really like the idea of Vados being a secret villain. Although, judging by the new episode titles, I don't think the tournament IS going to unravel partway through. It doesn't seem like there's a bigger picture at all.
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!It's in the timeline listed in Daizenshuu 7.
- 720 - 730: Saiyan-Tuffle War takes place.
- 731: Frieza annexes Planet Vegeta and recruits the Saiyans into the PTO.
- 732: Vegeta is born.
- 737: Worried that the Saiyans may grow too powerful, Frieza destroys Planet Vegeta, wiping out the Saiyan race.
The Saiyan history of traveling the universe annihilating planets for profit was a period of only six years, all in service to the PTO. It was, however, also the first five years of Vegeta's life after-which he was raised by the PTO.
edited 10th Mar '16 7:33:23 AM by TobiasDrake
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He can't revive someone who died of natural causes and they either couldn't or didn't use him to solve the issue in either timeline, so I'm going to wager no.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Yes, but by that point, Goku'd been dead for quite a while. There was time both before and after he succumbed to the Heart Virus to have Shenron either remove it or resurrect him.
Meanwhile, in the other timeline, they know about it three years in advance and either can't or don't have Shenron fix Goku's heart there either.
The implication seems to be that Shenron simply can't remove a medical condition, and this implication is supported by the fact that we know he can't resurrect someone who died of natural causes. This was established on Namek; he could only give Guru back the time he lost from despair over Frieza's genocide of his people, while Guru's death of age was inevitable.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Goku couldn't be revived though since he died of a Natural Cause. I'm not sure what the rule is on removing a fatal disease.
Right. That's the point. Goku was dying of a natural cause until he died of a natural cause, and we have a precedent for Shenron not being able to heal natural causes.
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I thought I remembered reading that Beerus destroys planets a lot more than he has to.