I have noticed that pattern too. Most of the complaints about Super (animation aside, although it's about where DBZ was on the most part), like Gohan losing power and being Worf , Vegeta being the Butt-Monkey to Beerus, Beerus being an Invincible Villain and a Karma Houdini, everyone playing second fiddle to Goku and Vegeta, are stuff that are in Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F'. In fact, Super fixes some of the issues with Gohan by having him realizing the important of his training again, Piccolo getting to fight something that isn't a Mook, and expanding the cast outside the same people.
And let's be honest, Vegeta was a Butt-Monkey in Z and The Load to boot. All the major sagas were his fault to one extent or another. He was the main villain of Saiyan Saga, which killed most of the main characters, forcing the survivors to go to Namek and face Frieza. Allowing Cell to become complete, charging Cell blindly after he killed Trunks, which almost got him killed and badly injured Gohan's arm. Waking up Majin Buu when they were close to putting Babidi away because he just couldn't wait for his rematch against Goku and he hated that Goku was still stronger than him.
I take the movies and Super version of Vegeta over the prideful douchebag we had through most of Z.
edited 5th Mar '16 5:37:22 PM by Ramona122003
I like Butt-Monkey Vegeta. What I don't like is overcompetent, flawless, generic badass, the-plot-seems-to-be-bending-over-backwards-to-give-him-opponents-to-kill Vegeta.
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!How is Vegeta flawless and over-competent? He mess up killing Frieza just like he did in the movie, refuses to learn from his mistake by teaming up with Goku, and he was completely embarrassed and demean by Beerus throughout the entire Battle of God Saga and had to beg Whis to train him when Goku only had to ask. Are we even watching the same show?
Also, I wouldn't say Vegeta will carry the day since we still have Monaka, Beerus' self-proclaimed ace. We also know nothing of the other fighters, except Cabba apparently can't go Super Saiyan.
"Wiser to admit that he lost"
Are you even aware of the fact that Beerus was going to destroy Earth? Because he was going to do exactly that, and Goku did not know that Beerus would loophole his way out of his promise to destroy Earth. And unlike with Cell, there wasn't a surefire backup plan.
And no, there really wasn't anywhere near the same stakes against Cell, because Gohan was significantly stronger than Cell and Goku knew that. His confidence in Gohan's victory is in part based on a wrong assumption, but that doesn't change the fact that Goku felt that Earth was in no danger from Cell because Gohan could handle it.
Saying that Goku would give up when doing so means certain death just because he admitted defeat against Cell when he knew Gohan could kill him, possibly with one hand tied behind his back and using the other to solve three different puzzles, is not very smart.
edited 5th Mar '16 6:00:03 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariThe Earth was going to be destroyed by Cell if Gohan didn't awake his hidden power. If Goku really was the 'never give up' type you are painting him to be, he would had fight and died fighting Cell and let Gohan handle the rest. Trying to ignore that and say, 'well, he knew Gohan will win', does not excuse the fact that the gave up the minute he realizes that he couldn't win.
Goku fighting and to the death against Beerus would have done nothing. He had nothing left and could barely conscious. At that point, it was more graceful to give up than to keep fighting out of pride sake, like Frieza who kept fighting until he stupidly cut himself into pieces and got blow away by Goku. Goku knew he lost and accepted that, even though the Earth would be destroy. He lost, there was nothing he could do to change that, just like he accepted he lost against Vegeta, despite knowing the Earth would be destroyed by him.
Guts and willpower meant jack if you don't have the strength to back it up. It's not about being smart, it's about knowing when you lost.
At this point, I'm so tired of everything. The previews make it look like the tournament setting is breaking apart a bit next episode, and I'll be happy if that happens.
The only fight I was actually looking forward to is Vegeta vs Cabba, because I thought there was potential for character development there, but I don't even know if that would happen. We'd have to have 2 straight Vegeta fights to even get to that, and by the third, you'd think it'd start getting boring.
Basically, from what this episode implies, I don't think the tournament is going to go on for much longer.
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!What makes you think Vegeta will have three fights? Looking at the episodes list, he only has one fight lined up with Cabba unless you think Piccolo will lose to Magetta. Even then his fight count will only be a little higher than Goku and Piccolo (winning 1 and losing 1).
As for Monaka, I like his design more than Botamo who is basically a demonic Winnie-the-Pooh. I also hope he doesn't transformed. Transformations are kinda overplayed at this point. Him being naturally strong while looking the way he does would make my day.

How so? I am not even a Vegeta fan and he's of favorite in the series. It's nice see all that character development he went through in Z finally paying off and he's not responsible for the major villains getting powers or awakening an ancient evil.
edited 5th Mar '16 4:56:26 PM by Ramona122003