... you were the one who got mad first. I never even read the other comment because it was thumped before I got to it.
Personally, I like Kaguya and despite the plot twist regarding her being sudden, I don't think it was too asspull-y. Naruto is still shit, but there were definitely good parts.
Do you honestly think that's anger? 'cause watching the AVGN would probably make your head explode if that's the case.
Also, just for the record, I was not the one who called the mod who thumped that post.
Like Dragon Ball/Naruto crossover fanfic.
Holy hell, those crossovers.
edited 3rd Mar '16 6:05:36 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariI remember one that made Goku and Naruto equals, with SS = Sage Mode, SS2 = Nine-Tails Chakra Mode, SS3 = Kurama Mode, and SSG = Kurama Sage Mode. Considering the fact that Goku has Saiyan beyond God and Super Saiyan Blue now, and Naruto got Six Paths Sage Mode, his new version of Kurama Sage Mode from The Last, what can only be described as a Six Paths Sage Kurama Mode, and even his Version 1 Cloak back, I really have no idea how a comparison like that would even work anymore, since Naruto has way more forms than Goku does now; not even gonna try to make Tailed Beast Mode in all its forms fit in this either.
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!I have to thank everyone for introducing me to the term "manpain". I think I'm going to use that to refer to that scene from now on.
edited 3rd Mar '16 11:38:07 PM by LOLypop1224
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!I thought I was the one who did that?![]()
Anyway... um...well...
How 'bout that Frost hey? He sure isn't Frieza.
One Strip! One Strip!Yes, Bulma is still relevant, but Chi-chi was just him punishing himself for some strange reason (since he disliked drawing her), 18 was just a reward for Krillin, and Videl... Videl got hitched to a wagon that he pushed right off a cliff and then decided lol now you're a housewife. And she was a normal human anyway, so how far she could have gone was always limited.
I admit, I'd love Super Saiyan Bulma... I wonder if they can wish themselves into Saiyans?
In Toriyama's defense, he's a product of his culture. This is something that comes up a lot in anime: Japan believes heavily in the notion that Female Success Is Family. We used to have a trope for that, but it got split up into components.
The basic idea is that Japan expects women to have careers only until they marry - which, itself, is expected to happen before the "unmarriable" age of 25; women who fail to do so become a Christmas Cake. Once wed, they're supposed to focus entirely on being a wife and mother, and this is considered their happy ending. Essentially, all interests, hobbies, and careers for female characters are expected to be temporary until they can start baby-making.
There's no apparent malice on Toriyama's part in what became of 18 and Videl; they both appear to have been written out with what would, in his culture, be considered a satisfactory and happy conclusion for their characters. He meant well enough.
It's still obnoxiously sexist, mind you. Just not spitefully so.
edited 4th Mar '16 7:47:14 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Also, Dragon Ball is a series from the 80s, from Japan. It's a product of its time. Nowadays, there's not much of an excuse, though.
This is true.
It's frustrating, but very true.
And Toriyama is from that time, so it's not a shock that he'd follow that example.
One Strip! One Strip!Dragon Ball is also a shonen series. It's like complaining that boys don't fight in a Magical Girl series.
There's more to writing process than checking off inclusiveness boxes.
Eh, I reject that one.
The exclusionism of "THESE shows are only for boys and THOSE shows are only for girls and NEVER shall the two enjoy the same media!" is part of Japan's obnoxious sexism.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I've heard that actual modern Japanese people below, let's say, thirty or so don't actually buy into the Christmas Cake thing too much or that women have to retire when they get married. I think the issue is just that a lot of mangaka are from the older generation and art tends to be lag behind new innovations and cultural ideas.
That Christmas Cake thing especially. It's one of those low brow jokes still being used in modern anime and manga.
Yeah. I admit I haven't watched a lot of Magical Girl stuff, but the two I have seen - Sailor Moon and Puella Magi Madoka Magica - both featured a Christmas Cake teacher whose bitterness and/or desperation over the inability to find love was her defining character trait.
It's presence in shoujo unsettles me, because it feels like it's meant as a warning. "Remember, girls, you MUST wed as soon as you can. Don't become these deranged, unmarryable women!"
Christmas Cakes don't appear as much in shonen, I think, because they don't have an "educational" value in boy-oriented media. The purpose of the division of shonen and shoujo is to teach boys and girls intrinsically different values.
edited 4th Mar '16 8:27:33 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Is that still a common thing or is it just a stereotype now?
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.It actually still kinda is.
Not to fan the flames even more, but there's actually an example of this as recently as Naruto, where the Mizukage is treated as a Christmas Cake. And no, the concept isn't parodied. The Christmas Cake joke is pretty much all there is to her.
edited 4th Mar '16 1:06:59 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariA thing that has been contributing to Japanese plummeting birth rates is young women and men actively avoiding marriage and children because of the cultures suffocating social mores. Something like up to half of all young women and up to a quarter of all young men are uninterested in even having purely sexual relationships.
The women know that if they get into a relationship there will be a lot of pressure to get married and have kids and abandon any career ambitions they have and the men know there will be an implicit assumption they'll have to work themselves to death so their wife want have to work or something.
It's just not appealing all around. There was even a thread devoted entirely to it here and it's probably come up before in the Japanese Culture Thread.
edited 4th Mar '16 1:21:48 PM by LSBK

I am so so so sorry I brought up Naruto.