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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34076: Feb 11th 2016 at 9:34:13 AM

Exactly! Tutorials are supposed to be easy, right?

edited 11th Feb '16 9:34:31 AM by unnoun

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#34077: Feb 11th 2016 at 1:42:55 PM

If we're gonna use Bardock as a prologue, let's make it a combination between Bardock, Father of Goku and the stuff revealed in DBM (that's Minus not Multiverse), so Gine exists and stuff but Bardock is still the asshole we saw in Father of Goku.

Though my favorite portrayal of Bardock is the Abridged version of Episode of Bardock, where he's just as dumb as Goku, just in different ways (also not brain damaged, just kinda dumb, while Goku is both dumb and brain damaged). The scenes where he loses his train of thought really easily are hilarious, and there's nothing quite like the beds in hell, which are made of spiky spiders... spikers.

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#34078: Feb 11th 2016 at 1:47:49 PM

I WILL EAT YOU

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#34079: Feb 11th 2016 at 1:48:41 PM

It's basically a What If?.

What If? abridged Goku was an asshole instead of brain damaged?

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#34080: Feb 11th 2016 at 3:19:52 PM

Yeah, the prologue of the game stars off with the events of Father of Goku and Minus, and if you meet certain conditions, you can unlock the Episode of Bardock missions.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#34081: Feb 11th 2016 at 3:26:53 PM

So I've heard several times that Toriyama said the revive-Cell's-victims wish brought back 16, who now lives with his predecessor in Jingle Village. Anyone have a source for this?

edited 11th Feb '16 3:36:08 PM by HamburgerTime

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#34082: Feb 11th 2016 at 3:30:59 PM

It's from a video game. Dragon Ball Z 2: Super Battle claims Android 16 was revived.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#34083: Feb 11th 2016 at 3:35:00 PM

it's a nice thought, but too bad he couldn't help against Buu. I mean, Tien pitched in.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#34084: Feb 11th 2016 at 3:37:17 PM

Could that work?

I mean, would 16 be revived by such a wish? It's clear Toriyama never thought of it (or he would have mentioned that such a thing would work).

Then again, I get the feeling that Toriyama doesn't think of a lot of things (though that doesn't mean he doesn't think a little ahead).

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#34085: Feb 11th 2016 at 4:01:10 PM

16 isn't, by definition, alive, as he is completely mechanical in nature, so it's doubtful that he'd be brought back.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#34086: Feb 11th 2016 at 4:02:24 PM

Booooooo!

Booooooo Toriyama! Booooooooo!

Right, I knew that was the case, but still.

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#34087: Feb 11th 2016 at 4:18:06 PM

I dunno.

I kinda like him being permadead.

It makes his death a stronger scene in general, and it justifies Gohan's rage - it was the first time he saw someone he considered a good guy truly permadie.

It helps that it's also completely his fault that it happened, since he was stronger than Cell and just refused to fight a battle he thought was pointless.

edited 11th Feb '16 4:18:51 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#34088: Feb 11th 2016 at 4:31:57 PM

Not until he went Super Saiyan 2 he wasn't. Though Vegeta or Krillin dying would've been better for the long term because they could be brought back.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34089: Feb 11th 2016 at 4:34:24 PM

Not by Earth's Dragon Balls they couldn't. Krillin and Vegeta have both died and been brought back by Earth's Dragon Balls.

If they went to Namek again they'd probably run into Ultra-Frieza.

Also, nobody knows where the fuck New Namek is. It's not where Old Namek was.

Goku only got Dende by using King Kai as a satnav and then teleporting.

16 isn't, by definition, alive, as he is completely mechanical in nature, so it's doubtful that he'd be brought back.

Is that Toriyama saying that, or just you?

edited 11th Feb '16 4:37:53 PM by unnoun

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#34090: Feb 11th 2016 at 5:11:13 PM

[up][up][up] We have been over this, Cell never used all of his power until he fought Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, so there's really no way of knowing if Gohan was actually stronger than Cell before he ascended.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#34091: Feb 11th 2016 at 5:15:54 PM

Oh dear.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#34092: Feb 11th 2016 at 5:31:16 PM

Power levels and Gohan? It's that time of the day again!

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#34093: Feb 11th 2016 at 5:39:37 PM

Hey guys, what's u—

-sees discussion going on-

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#34094: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:21:48 PM

No wait, back this up. All that was said was that Gohan's fault because he wouldn't put an end to Perfect Cell. That is Gohan's fault, we do know that Gohan was stronger, because Perfect was clearly outmatched when Gohan lost it.

Phew.

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#34095: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:37:57 PM

Shulgo, that's defamation of character. The saiyans engaged in nothing so petty as genocide. They were clearly exterminating macro fauna from biospheres, a much broader and less discriminatory procedure.

edited 11th Feb '16 6:39:01 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

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#34096: Feb 11th 2016 at 9:36:34 PM

Well, either way, Android 8 was brought back with the Namekian Dragon Balls. Whether Earth's Dragon Balls do that, too, I have no idea.

But on another note, that does disprove the "Arale died for good when the Earth blew up" idea.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#34097: Feb 11th 2016 at 9:41:05 PM

Wrong. Arale came back anyway, because she's Arale.tongue

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#34098: Feb 12th 2016 at 12:29:40 AM

So, Bardock tutorial opens a special mission?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#34099: Feb 12th 2016 at 5:51:51 AM

Ew, online rankings.

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