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T-manboy55 Since: Jan, 2016
#33801: Feb 5th 2016 at 12:05:38 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]I saw that in a Dragon ball game once, it was called Supersonic Warriors.

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#33802: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:45:27 PM

Piccolo is not exactly the same as his father. They share a soul but they have different bodies. Piccolo Jr's was explicitly said to be stronger than his father's(because of course it was) and the two are not even physically identical.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#33803: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:49:21 PM

Whether they're exactly alike doesn't matter; the fact that they share the same soul is why the whole "just revive Demon King Piccolo and have Junior fuse with him" thing makes no sense.

edited 5th Feb '16 6:51:00 PM by LSBK

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#33804: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:51:58 PM

Again, he can fuse with Guru.

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#33805: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:52:00 PM

Why not just say "I wish for the Demon King Piccolo from another reality where he won"?

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Guru died a natural death, he can't be revived.

edited 5th Feb '16 6:52:32 PM by AdricDePsycho

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#33806: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:55:11 PM

Well, given the circumstances of Daimo Piccolo no longer existence, I don't think it is possible to revive him with the Dragon Balls perse, but I think it would be interesting to see another soul inhabit his body.

And Piccolo totally could use the Dragon Balls to contact Future Trunks and then go back in time and fuse with his father using the time machine.

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#33807: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:56:58 PM

[up][up] He can go to the afterlife; the guy's probably in Heaven anyway, and it'd give TFS more material since Guru would be in his head too.

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#33808: Feb 5th 2016 at 6:57:45 PM

Yeah but then that new timeline's Goku would never have to train with Kami, meaning he never would be strong enough to fight Piccolo Jr, which would mean they would get crushed by the Saiyans. I don't think the repercussions of such an event happening, even in a different timeline, would sit well with Piccolo.

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#33809: Feb 5th 2016 at 7:18:01 PM

People, Piccolo Daimao was laughably weak, and if it's not his other half, who's to say he'll get any decent boost at all out of a fusion?

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#33810: Feb 5th 2016 at 7:52:18 PM

So was Kami, and he still shot up from "weaker than a Super Saiyan" to being "equal to an Android who can curbstomp a Super Saiyan."

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#33811: Feb 5th 2016 at 7:59:07 PM

[up] And he was still too weak there relative to the story importance of the fusion IMO. I think he should've been able to put up a good fight against Semi-Perfect Cell, but that may just be me.

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#33812: Feb 5th 2016 at 8:25:25 PM

Dude, he practically increased his strength nearly 50 times over, by fusing with someone who only had a power level of at least 230.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#33813: Feb 5th 2016 at 8:26:16 PM

[up] And it was wasted on a draw with IMO one of the least interesting characters in the series.

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#33814: Feb 5th 2016 at 8:27:50 PM

The same guy that is said to be stronger than his sister, who had previously handed Super Saiyan Vegeta's ass on a platter, with what was most likely minimal effort.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#33815: Feb 5th 2016 at 8:31:34 PM

And whose only real role was being eaten by a homicidal grasshopper man.

Like I said, it's definitely impressive, but storytelling-wise it's one of the most significant powerups in the series in terms of its effect on The 'Verse, and all we get is an inconclusive fight with a character who doesn't really matter much, and is quickly surpassed by other characters through mere Level Grinding.

edited 5th Feb '16 8:33:31 PM by HamburgerTime

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#33816: Feb 6th 2016 at 4:17:15 AM

So was Kami, and he still shot up from "weaker than a Super Saiyan" to being "equal to an Android who can curbstomp a Super Saiyan."

Because God was his other half. That's specifically why that fusion was so potent.

If Daimao could still exist independently of Junior, he'd be more like runoff at this point. I think it would be bullshit if he gives a bigger power-up than the two halves reuniting.

[up] He also defeated Cell in the first encounter, and found out everything about him. I do think his fusion should have been a bigger deal but there wasn't much else he could do in that arc without fucking up the plot and that is infinitely more important than he is.

It's not as bad as his Namek arc power-up, anyway. He comes out of nowhere, gets a power-up out of nowhere, only to get knocked down by the next person he fights.

edited 6th Feb '16 4:19:23 AM by Saiga

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#33817: Feb 6th 2016 at 4:47:11 AM

Piccolo's boost from fusing with Kami doesn't bother me too much. Old God was stronger than young Daimo Piccolo, who was stronger than old Daimo Piccolo. The fusion specifically used younger Piccolo Jr, so I took it as Piccolo getting the power of Kami's youth in addition to the power lost by the fission.

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#33819: Feb 6th 2016 at 6:50:36 AM

To be fair, Majin Buu's health regenerates so he was probably at 100% health anyway. A Senzu wouldn't have affected him much.

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#33820: Feb 6th 2016 at 7:35:15 AM

Broly's little background cameo in that Otherworld tournament screen shot further down is interesting, never really noticed that.

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#33821: Feb 6th 2016 at 7:43:30 AM

@ Saiga: Like I said, being able to at least meaningfully injure Semi-Perfect Cell would satisfy me.

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#33822: Feb 6th 2016 at 8:10:19 AM

What exactly constitutes a meaningful injury to a regenerator?

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#33823: Feb 6th 2016 at 8:15:46 AM

That he's wasting energy to regenerate, except for some reason that doesn't seem to be the case in DB.

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#33824: Feb 6th 2016 at 9:15:01 AM

Actually, I'd wager that it is the case with Cell - it's probably a negligible amount of energy though.

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#33825: Feb 6th 2016 at 9:16:19 AM

Cell was weakened after regenerating from losing his head, which is why Goku gave him senzu.


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