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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33601: Feb 1st 2016 at 3:58:52 PM

Super Saiyan's stamina drain is a lot less though.

And, after Goku was in the time chamber, basically non existent.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33602: Feb 1st 2016 at 3:59:57 PM

Freeza did train, though. He mentions as much. It probably never really did much for him though.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33603: Feb 1st 2016 at 4:01:56 PM

I mean, he definitely didn't train seriously.

He mentions his parents training him, but it's questionable how intense said training would have been. It would probably have been basic stuff like ki control as opposed to serious strength training or combat training.

The Death Beam and Death Ball show that either Frieza was so overwhelmingly powerful that he didn't have to put much effort in, or when that wouldn't work, he would just blow it all up and call it a day.

Frieza can go small or go big, not much in between.

edited 1st Feb '16 4:09:18 PM by unnoun

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33604: Feb 1st 2016 at 4:06:33 PM

I think I am going to start ignoring your posts entirely from now on, because your not writing like a normal person is starting to annoy me big time. Nothing personal.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33605: Feb 1st 2016 at 4:08:30 PM

That's kinda funny coming from you. I've been trying not to say anything, but I've been just as annoyed with how clinical and robotic your posting style is.

edited 1st Feb '16 4:20:59 PM by unnoun

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33606: Feb 1st 2016 at 4:42:55 PM

... Clinical and robotic?

Seriously?

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33607: Feb 1st 2016 at 4:59:13 PM

... Clinical and robotic?

Seriously?

Oh look, you did the "one word and then a punctuation mark" thing too. And the ellipses before a short sentence. And a line break after a single sentence that was only three words long. Wow. Nobody else posts like that.

You say "seriously?" at least as much as I say "like." or "and." if not more so.

I recognize that I have developed some egregiously bad habits in my posting style, but I'm not going to take abuse from someone over it when their own habits are every bit as irritating and they're completely ignoring them to get one up on me.

It's not even like there aren't probably valid reasons to dislike me. I swear a lot, I'm rude, I'm aggressive, I'm petty and spiteful and mean, I'm arrogant, I'm brash, I'm opinionated, I get easily distracted and sidetracked, sometimes I say things that are a little ableist. The structure of the way I talk being a bit annoying by your standards isn't really a valid reason. Partly because, while I haven't said anything, because I've been trying to be nice, I find the way you post every bit as annoying.

edited 1st Feb '16 5:47:11 PM by unnoun

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#33608: Feb 1st 2016 at 5:54:56 PM

Hey you know what's an argument shouldn't start? This one.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33610: Feb 1st 2016 at 5:56:02 PM

This is completely irrelevant to Dragon Ball, don't you agree?

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33611: Feb 1st 2016 at 5:56:52 PM

I mean.

Assholes like me and you are kinda what the series is about.

For thirty years we've been following the evil mirror universe.

edited 1st Feb '16 5:59:40 PM by unnoun

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#33612: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:00:32 PM

Well at least you guys admit it, you assholes.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#33613: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:02:15 PM

Dragon Ball breed jackasses of fanbases, nothing new here.

Anyway, back to Frieza...was it ever mentioned that he trained before ROF? I never bothered reading the original manga, so I don't know if that statement is legit.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#33614: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:03:02 PM

Should we summon Saiga to give us a lecture on power levels to break the tension? tongue

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33615: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:05:13 PM

IIRC, it was Saiga himself who brought it up, and when I went to look it up, it was there in at least the Spanish version of the manga, at least the line about his parents only being able to get dust on him in fourth form.

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#33616: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:09:13 PM

[up]I have the DVD's, I'll see if the line about his parents was in the Japanese version.

Kaio-Ken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiZWGXRsoT4

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#33617: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:09:36 PM

Ya know, that sounds vague enough to not be considered training but another trope entirely.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
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#33618: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:54:34 PM

I kind of get why people hate Revival Of F but I repeat that I liked it for its world building implications and I appreciate the characterization shown in the story.

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Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#33619: Feb 1st 2016 at 8:02:47 PM

When it comes to powerlevels I remember reading a theory that as power levels increase the difference between powerlevels becomes more and more meaningless. So the difference between powerlevels of 3500 and 4000 would be massive, but the difference between powerlevels 15000000 and 15500000 is actually far less. Basically as powerlevels increase the differences become more and more meaningless.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#33620: Feb 1st 2016 at 8:51:52 PM

Wait nope.

edited 1st Feb '16 8:55:54 PM by LSBK

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#33621: Feb 2nd 2016 at 1:06:58 AM

It's more like the numerical difference is meaningless compared to the percentage difference, which means everything.

2,300 vs 2,600 and 4,600,000 vs 5,200,000 are identical match-ups

Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#33622: Feb 2nd 2016 at 7:26:22 AM

My friend Max once said Goku's power level is 73 trillion.

Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!
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#33623: Feb 2nd 2016 at 7:55:07 AM

Yeah, but Toei doesn't seem to realize that based on the movies and GT.

The amount of things Toei doesn't realize about this series could fill a book.

Like, it's funny that the Genki-Dama has this reputation of being overpowered and constantly used to win every fight because in the series proper, it's only used three times and two of those were abject failures. It injured Vegeta a bit before he resumed beating the hell out of everyone and it pissed off Frieza enough to stop playing around and commence murdering everybody.

Excluding the movies, the only time the Genki-Dama actually won a fight was against Pure Buu, and it took a lot of effort outside the technique to actually make it work. Mr. Satan fame-whoring the entire planet and a miracle wish off a magical dragon were required for the move to actually succeed.

Freeza was the one Big Bad Goku was stronger than. Otherwise, he was definitely weaker than Perfect Cell, and weaker than Super Buu, and his superiority over Kid Buu is debatable as well.

He was Awesome, but Impractical against Pure Buu. Potentially more powerful if not for the immense drawbacks that guaranteed he couldn't actually hit that height.

To be fair, Goku did go for the kill after Freeza spat on his offer of Mercy. Goku's oversight was that he failed to Double Tap.

The second time, anyway. Goku tried to play the Cruel Mercy card twice.

Freeza did train, though. He mentions as much. It probably never really did much for him though.

He mentions his parents are the only people ever to get dust on him. This doesn't necessarily mean he trained. There are other possible reasons for why Frieza and his father may have come to blows at some point in his life, which delve into the unknown history of Frieza and how he came to be the ruler of the PTO while King Cold is basically a useless relic.

edited 2nd Feb '16 7:55:43 AM by TobiasDrake

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33624: Feb 2nd 2016 at 8:20:34 AM

I dunno. If they had actually come to blows, do you think Freeza would have let him live? He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to spare anyone when he gets pissed.

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#33625: Feb 2nd 2016 at 8:21:54 AM

If he wasn't pissed, sure.

It could have been a hostile takeover or something. Frieza wanted the PTO so he challenged his father for it.

It could have been an attempt at punishment. Frieza did something bad, his father tried to punish him, Frieza pushed back and established dominance.

At some point, Frieza rose above King Cold on the pecking order. We don't know how or why that came about, but Frieza has mentioned that King Cold "got dust on him" once. The two points seem to complement each other.

edited 2nd Feb '16 8:23:12 AM by TobiasDrake

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