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#33126: Jan 19th 2016 at 6:12:46 PM

Apparently, Toriyama is (Ironcially enough) a big fan of Suoerman, and he hated how Toei tried to make Super Saiyan God Goku and Beerus Universe busters.

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#33127: Jan 19th 2016 at 6:16:10 PM

I mean, it's fitting, considering Goku's origin (though the differences are greater than the similarities).

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#33128: Jan 19th 2016 at 6:29:51 PM

[up][up]To be fair, I don't blame him.

Dragon Ball had already had very inflated power escalation and then they went and cranked that dial up to eleven.

I think Toei was just sore that Naruto outdid them in power escalation. It seems angry fanboys exist all the way up in the industry, huh?

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#33129: Jan 19th 2016 at 6:35:46 PM

[up][up][up] & [up] One problem though, the manga version of the fight also made Goku and Beerus out to be universe destroyers, so Toei isn't the only one to blame here.

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#33130: Jan 19th 2016 at 6:38:10 PM

Who writes the manga though? I thought Toriyama had partial credit for it?

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#33131: Jan 19th 2016 at 6:40:54 PM

Well Toyotaro is working on it, but he's being credited for the illustrations, with Toriyama being credited for the story itself.

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#33132: Jan 19th 2016 at 6:41:15 PM

[up][up] Toriyama doesn't write the manga, the guy that made the most famous version of Dragon Ball AF does. Basically, Toriyama has merely been watching what Toei has done both manga and anime wise.

edited 19th Jan '16 6:42:02 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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#33133: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:14:25 PM

I still prefer to think it's butthurt fanboys.

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#33134: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:16:16 PM

Apparently, Toriyama is (Ironcially enough) a big fan of Superman, and he hated how Toei tried to make Super Saiyan God Goku and Beerus Universe busters.

Out of curiosity, do you have a source this?

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#33135: Jan 19th 2016 at 7:46:20 PM

Well anyone as strong as Buuhan can apparently collapse the universe so long as the can A)find enough of its dimensional barriers, B)punch through them before someone as strong as Vegito stops them.

Since Buuhan is, like, 99.7% weaker than Beerus, we know he can do it. The problem is the only dimensional barrier we've ever seen is the entrance to the room of spirit and time. But still, they've covered part A) and then some. They could probably use the Dragon Balls to find out where the rest of part B) is.

I wonder what a collapsed universe would look like? Would it turn all of existence into wherever the room of spirit and time leads to? Would it transform Dragon Ball into Game & Watch? Would it allow Majin Buu to be on team Beerus?

edited 19th Jan '16 7:46:59 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

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#33136: Jan 19th 2016 at 8:18:27 PM

Again, Toyotaro is only credited for the illustrations for the Super manga; Toriyama is credited for the actual story. Hell, Toriyama probably has more creative input for the manga at this point, only because of all the 6th Universe stuff that is happening currently.

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#33137: Jan 19th 2016 at 8:50:06 PM

How is Toriyama being a fan of Superman ironic?

Where do you think he got the inspiration for Goku's origin?

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#33138: Jan 19th 2016 at 9:10:18 PM

No, that was an attempt to stir up a rivalry that doesn't exist outside of youtube and versus websites. Hell, I didn't even get it until I read the a quote that corrected the typo.

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#33139: Jan 19th 2016 at 9:19:23 PM

[up][up]Astro Boy was actually one of the inspirations behind Goku. tongue

The whole "Goku was inspired by Superman" has actually always been another Fanon thing. If you look up interviews with Toriyama, the only inspirations he really lists are Journey to the West (obviously), Osamu Tezuka's work, and Disney movies.

edited 19th Jan '16 9:29:44 PM by Lionheart0

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#33141: Jan 19th 2016 at 10:55:24 PM

Their dialogue. It is very stilted.

The acting is horrible.

The special effects are meh even for a fan production.

I don't know what the hell's up with Nappa or Raditz.

I stopped at the Kayo Ken because that level of laziness doesn't fly with me.

Honestly, The Light of Hope is proof enough for me that Dragon Ball can work in live action (my biggest problem with it from that aspect is that there are way too many jump cuts). That, however, proved yet again that it takes a special kind of talent to pull it off and not many people possess that talent.

edited 19th Jan '16 10:57:16 PM by Zelenal

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#33142: Jan 19th 2016 at 10:58:20 PM

Oh wait that's from 2012.

Here's a video from the same guys released 2 months ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6o0BVbqKII

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#33143: Jan 20th 2016 at 4:15:19 AM

Dragon Ball Evolution resurrected the franchise. Motherf*cking Evolution is the reason why we have all this Dragon Ball stuff now.

No it didn't. Toei was already working on Battle of Gods, approached Toriyama with ideas like Super Saiyan God and Beerus in place, and brought him on board. He then rewrote Watanabe's script.

He's talking about two separate incidents of him being unhappy with other people's work on the franchise - then following it up with a third, Dragon Ball Super.

People also misinterpreted one of his comments before BOG aired as that he created BOG because Evolution was so poor, but what he said was that he tried his best on BOG to make up for Evolution.

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#33144: Jan 20th 2016 at 7:51:28 AM

Okay. That makes me feel better.

I would hate to have to be grateful to Evolution for anything.

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#33145: Jan 20th 2016 at 8:44:52 AM

Apparently mangakas Oda (One Piece), Toyble (DBAF, DBH and DBS, duh), Asada (Tegami Bachi), Araki (JJBA), Inoue (Vagabond), Obata (Death Note), Katsura (Zetman), Kishimoto (Naruto), Kubo (Bleach), Komi (Nisekoi), Tosh (Shokugeki no Souma), Hedeaki (Gintama), Kazuki (Yu-Gi-Oh), Tabata (Black Clover), Nakama (Isobe Isobee Monogatari), Akimoto (Kochikame), Aso (Saiki Kusuo no PSI Nan), Hara (Hokuto no Ken), Furudate (Haikyuu!!), Hojo (City Hunter), Horikoshi (Boku no Hero Academia), Matsui (Assassination Classroom), Murata (One Punch Man), Morita (Rookies), Yabuki (To-LOVE-Ru), Yudetamago (Kinnikuman), Yokota (Onani Master Kurosawa) and Watsuki (Rurouni Kenshin) did some tribute art in the new 30th Anniversary Dragon Ball book.

edited 20th Jan '16 8:45:37 AM by Rinsankajugin

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#33147: Jan 20th 2016 at 8:55:13 AM

Toriyama JJBA and Araki DB, tasty combos!

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#33148: Jan 20th 2016 at 9:19:05 AM

I want to see Watsuki's Dragon Ball. I loved that guy's artwork.

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#33149: Jan 20th 2016 at 12:03:52 PM

Some genius deductive reasoning skills from the Dragon Ball wiki regarding the name of the purple Champa fighter: Hit's name comes from the English word "hit".

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