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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#31951: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:39:32 PM

Like pretty much all OHKO moves?

And actually, the amount of times that Krillin has used it vs the amount of times it hit would be consistent with the accuracy of other OHKO moves.

edited 2nd Jan '16 10:40:19 PM by BaconManiac5000

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#31952: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:42:50 PM

O.K.

Kienzan is an OHKO move.

Spirit Ball is a weak Special Move with perfect accuracy that hits 2-5 times on the opponent's Physical Defense.

Solar Flare is Flash with a chance to make the opponent flinch.

edited 2nd Jan '16 10:43:26 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31953: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:44:21 PM

Sokidan shouldn't have perfect accuracy, it can miss. It should have something like multiple accuracy checks for a single hit, like how it was used.

Which would be new for Pokemon, and they don't really like new.

edit: Solar Flare should work like U-Turn, but no damage and a chance to flinch.

edited 2nd Jan '16 10:45:02 PM by Saiga

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#31954: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:45:35 PM

What are Spirit Ball and Sokidan?

Or are they the same thing?

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#31955: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:46:32 PM

[up]Yes.

[up][up]Yes.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#31957: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:46:52 PM

Okay, but what is it?

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#31958: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:47:48 PM

Yamcha's other signature move.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
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#31960: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:49:36 PM

A signature he doesn't use after Dragon Ball...besides one movie.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#31961: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:50:05 PM

Ah.

PMC made it sound like Hellzone Grenade.

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#31962: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:50:05 PM

Spirit Ball has 25 Power and it always attacks 5 times, but each separate one of those 5 attacks has 90 accuracy and it comes off the Special Attack stat while hitting the Physical Defense stat.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31963: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:50:57 PM

[up][up][up] hey, he used it in filler

lol

edited 2nd Jan '16 10:51:08 PM by Saiga

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#31964: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:52:03 PM

Hellzone Grenade is a Fighting Psyshock.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31965: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:53:07 PM

Maybe Hellzone Grenade could be like a Pursuit type move.

Since it was about boxing the opponent in.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#31966: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:54:40 PM

Couldn't Sokidan just be something like Rock Blast? Or does it only hit once?

And Pokemon does do new stuff every generation. With gameplay, at least. The story is as stale as ever, I imagine.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#31967: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:55:13 PM

Well, Whirlpool and similar moves prevent the opponent from switching out.

But they're only 35 BP.

I would think Hellzone Grenade would be a bit more powerful than that.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31968: Jan 2nd 2016 at 10:58:55 PM

[up] Those are also multi-turn trapping moves, I was trying to avoid that comparison because Hellzone Grenade is one big attack.

Ways it could go down:

  • Pursuit mechanic (bonus damage if enemy switches)
  • Charge move ala Solar Beam, that traps the enemy while charging
  • One-off Stealth Rock, that damages the switcher instead of the one switching in

[up][up] Meh, even the gameplay improvements are slight refinements at this stage.

And yes, Sokidan appears to only hit once in the manga. It hits God in the jaw and just disappears. The video games have Yamcha do the redirection thing to hit one opponent many times, but they typically do that with his filler "Super Sokidan" version. Maybe those can just be separate moves.

edited 2nd Jan '16 11:00:04 PM by Saiga

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#31969: Jan 2nd 2016 at 11:01:56 PM

What would the Human Extinction Attack be?

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#31970: Jan 2nd 2016 at 11:02:02 PM

[up][up]Maybe it would be like Bullet Seed and Piccolo just has Skill Link.

[up]Reverse Beat Up.

edited 2nd Jan '16 11:02:23 PM by BaconManiac5000

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#31971: Jan 2nd 2016 at 11:02:34 PM

Psychic are weak to Fighting, right?

Maybe that's why Babidi is such a joke.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#31973: Jan 2nd 2016 at 11:04:06 PM

[up][up]Other way around.

edited 2nd Jan '16 11:04:28 PM by LSBK

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#31974: Jan 2nd 2016 at 11:05:20 PM

The way you're thinking, Babidi would be a Dark type, since he relies on tricks instead of fighting.

And Dark is weak to Fighting.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#31975: Jan 2nd 2016 at 11:09:00 PM

So is Frieza's family Ice/Fighting type?

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