Goten and Trunks haven't been keeping up with their training as much.
Like I'm not even sure if they can go to SS 3 as Gotenks anymore. They certainly didn't use it against Beerus.
To the Journey To The West reference: If the little red alien spews fire out of his face at any point, than he is 100% Dragon Ball's version of Red Boy, and that would be kind of awesome.
edited 16th Dec '15 6:56:40 PM by PushoverMediaCritic
The position of his greatest rival is disputed between The Red Boy and the Nine Headed Monster, the difference being the former performs a(forced) Heel–Face Turn but the latter does not. I'm surprised to see him introduced before the three kings of the cave or the rhino kings. The Sorting Algorithm of Evil suggest they should show up first as enemies who were able to beat Sun Wukong by ganging up on him, Then The Black Wind Demon, who was equal to Sun Wukong in singles combat but out smarted, then either The Red Boy who was beat him one on one or The Nine Headed Monster who could only be driven away when Sun Wukong teamed up with a god and his dog.
I guess the yellow bear could be the black wind demon though, and since The Red Boy lives in universe seven he might be the rival who finally succeeds Vegeta. Buu at the forefront is a promising sign too.
edited 16th Dec '15 9:14:02 PM by IndirectActiveTransport
Buldogue's lawyerThey say in the manga version that they aren't. Which makes sense as to why they don't ask Gohan - this is purely being done for fun and ego. Probably the same reason the kids weren't considered.
The whole "Piccolo was chosen over the kids because he's stronger FOR SURE" is laughable because Gotenks is so far above Piccolo it isn't funny. And we haven't been given any information that would rule him out as a possibility - anyone he couldn't beat in 5 minutes as a Super Saiyan 3 would annihilate Piccolo, and even as a Super Saiyan 1 with his 30 minute time limit he's still way stronger.
So if they were ranking things on power, Gotenks would come right after Gohan was written off. Any other reason to rule out Gotenks could be used to rule out the individual boys, because they're both as stupid and reckless as Gotenks is.
Therefore, Piccolo being chosen doesn't support him being stronger than the boys, and we're not told by they or Gotenks weren't considered. Given that they didn't train during the peace time either, they're probably in the same boat as Gohan in that this wouldn't interest them.
It would depend on how they're going about it. I could easily see Champa being the time to go "This guy doesn't count because he's made from two people!" or something. And if you're going on an individual level, Goten and Trunks seem like a set, they don't like using one without the other so neither goes. Also apparent lack of interest.
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I guess because of the time limit on fusion, but that wouldn't matter for 2 reasons
- Gotenks could still win before his time limit is up, no matter what Super Saiyan level he is.
- Gotenks loses only because his opponent is powerful enough to outlast the fusion, which only means a loss that Piccolo would have also suffered in the same situation.
edited 17th Dec '15 8:32:11 AM by VeryMelon
Narrative conventions in tournament arc storytelling suggest that 2 out of 5 fighters on Beerus's side will lose.
Because it'd be anticlimactic if Beerus's team just won the first three rounds and then the other two fighters on each side didn't ever do anything.
Unless this is an elimination tournament where instead of clean matches with a winner being declared as whoever wins 3 out of 5 rounds, fighters can continue to compete until they lose. Then it's certain that everyone except Goku will be defeated eventually, but some might win a match or two before elimination.
One might even say it's his job.
Gohan, is that you?
Probably. Before Raditz landed, Toriyama loved to have tournament arcs with small-scale stakes. The stakes of the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai were that if Goku wins, he might become complacent, get bored of studying martial arts, and just become confident that he has all the strength and doesn't need to keep practicing. A hybrid of Vegeta and Gohan, basically. In a sense, Goku was sort of the antagonist of the 21st tournament, with the focus being on Kame-sennin trying to overcome his immense power for the fate of his future.
The 22nd's stakes revolved around Tien's fate, whether he would become a merciless assassin like Tao Pai Pai or be redeemed by Goku's pure love of fighting.
The 23rd's stakes were about Piccolo wanting revenge.
Even the Cell Games, while technically being about Cell's threat to blow up the Earth, were really more about Cell's ego than anything else. Frankly, I don't see why the Earth has to be in danger in order to sit back and enjoy another Dragon Ball tournament arc.
As a consequence of the time limit, I would expect any reasonable tournament organizer to disqualify Fused characters on grounds of being two people. If it's single 1v1 matchups, that's cheating.
Because the Fusion Dance is not a permanent power boost or absorption but is, instead, a conjoined technique that temporarily turns two fighters into one fighter, it's difficult to justify allowing both fighters to compete in a 1v1 match.
edited 17th Dec '15 7:35:03 AM by TobiasDrake
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I can see allowing Goten and Trunks to take up two fighter slots but they would have to fight individually, not fused. If Piccolo is stronger than either of them is individually, he's a superior choice.
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New things confirmed are:
- Card Action Ability: Triple Team (God Mission 5's was Double)
- TIME PATROL GOTEN
- TP GOTEN CAN FUSE WITH TP TRUNKS AND BECOME TIME PATROL GOTENKS
It is impractical, especially if they wore forced to use SS 3, decreasing the fusion time further.
I dunno, it makes sense they wouldn't pick a temporary fusion for their team . Especially since might instantly be disqualified if they unfuse before finishing the fight.
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Where would Time Patrol Goten be from? He can't be from Future Trunk's timeline.
edited 17th Dec '15 10:14:18 AM by Cortez

Piccolo's the next strongest person available, after Gohan and Buu.