Piccolo didn't become "stronger", Toriyama just up and decided Gohan, Goten, and Trunks aren't worth using for fights anymore for some reason. That's hardly evidence to say Piccolo is without a doubt stronger :V
edited 14th Dec '15 7:28:14 AM by BlackYakuzu94
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.Not really no. Piccolo effectively stopped fighting during the Buu Saga. His biggest claim to fame during the entire arc was chopping Babidi in half and assisting Gotenks with his Volley Ball move.
There's been no real indication how strong Piccolo is since he got stomped by First Form Cell.
Piccolo became stronger through training in the time chamber, fusion wasn't the cap to his power. He was only surpassed by Vegeta and Trunks because they entered the time chamber twice. You're missing the entire point.
Also, if you don't forgive Trunks for standing by as Cell dominated Vegeta then you surely don't forgive Vegeta for attacking his own son and assisting Cell as he absorbed 18, do you?
Buldogue's lawyerVegeta has done far more unforgivable things than that. In fact, 90% of the actions Vegeta takes in the series are unforgivable.
So, no, I don't forgive him for that but it probably doesn't even break Vegeta's Top 5 Stupidest Moments.
And before somebody busts in here to yell at me for bashing DBZ, Vegeta being stupid is just a thing that's undeniable. It's written in the story. Me calling Vegeta awful is like me saying Vegeta has pointy hair.
edited 14th Dec '15 8:34:39 AM by Nikkolas
Um, Trunks didn't interfere because he knew Vegeta wouldn't accept his help and probably hate him (more) for it, the guy sort of has daddy issues if you never picked up on that.
The way you're going about it makes it sound like he was just some dick who wanted to watch his father get almost killed why boasting about how easy things would be, when incidentally, he really didn't do much boasting besides "I think I've surpassed my father".
edited 14th Dec '15 8:35:02 AM by LSBK
I'm perfectly aware of Why he did it. That doesn't stop me from being annoyed as Vegeta receives a ridiculously lengthy beating that could have been easily stopped by Trunks at any time.
Vegeta was in no position to refuse help at this point. Maybe he could have gurgled a fuck you but not much else.
So what we have here is Vegeta receiving a huge, protracted beatdown because Trunks thinks he's the shit. Then when it comes time to walk the walk and not just talk the talk, he's humiliated in short order.
Granted, this is a lot of leftover resentment from back when I first watched DBZ and Vegeta was my favorite character. I didn't much appreciate the fact my fave badass got the beating of his life for ultimately no reason. Well, the second beating of his life, I guess.
edited 14th Dec '15 8:43:06 AM by Nikkolas
Again, where are you getting that Trunks "thinks he's the shit" from? Nothing he said implied such high opinion of himself. You're putting opinions and motivations in the character that frankly weren't there. He had to force himself to hold back for as long as he did because he knows what kind of person Vegeta is.
If you want be annoyed by the scene fine but you're completely misrepresenting how and why it happened. And Vegeta can and will say no to help even when he's getting beaten down.
Edit: And has already been said he could have actually stopped it.
edited 14th Dec '15 8:44:25 AM by LSBK
I remember the scene just fine. I remember Trunks explaining at length that "I HAVE SURPASSED MY FATHER!!!!" And "I CAN STOP CELL!!!!!" And then Krillin begging him for several minutes on end to get in there and do something.
So, yes, I do think Trunks proclaiming he's stronger than Vegeta and that he is a match for Cell, and then realizing he is neither of those things, as him boasting.
And Trunks could have easily stopped it because Cell didn't give a shit about Vegeta. The second Cell sensed Trunks powering up, he forgot all about Vegeta. Cell was not on a mission to kill Vegeta, just test out his new body.
edited 14th Dec '15 8:46:22 AM by Nikkolas
Except it's not. He thought he was just stating a facts. He believed based on a misunderstanding he had surpassed Vegeta and he also believed he could stop Cell. At no point was he trying to impress anyone or boasting about his abilities.
Edit: Or he'd just kill Vegeta and move on Trunks. Either of those is an option and we all know how much Cell loves killing. You can't say he'd just leave Vegeta alone with certainty.
edited 14th Dec '15 8:48:36 AM by LSBK
To me it just comes off as ignoring the actual context and circumstances the characters were in. Like with people who got pissed at Krillin for ridiculing for wildly attacking Cell after he killed Trunks going "Oh, I don't know Krillin, maybe because he's his dad!?". Which might very well make sense if until that moment Vegeta hadn't made it a point to be as distant and apathetic towards Trunks as possible.
Krillin might have been in the wrong for being aggravated over Vegeta almost killing all of them by "acting like a father" if Vegeta has previously shown any interest whatsoever in actually being a father.
edited 14th Dec '15 12:19:45 PM by LSBK
They brought back Ginyu to appease salty Vegeta fans who wanted him to kill all members of the Ginyu Force back on Namek.
That's the explanation that makes the most sense to me.
I mean, I know for sure they won't make Vegeta kill Freeza, so they're at least giving him this.
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!I think I've figured out who one of the the universe 6 saiyans will be.
If he's not I'm creating him in Xenoverse.
Buldogue's lawyerTelling you would ruin the point wouldn't it?
Mr. 450 bragging about how he's wrestled in all across Japan, including the number one mixed martial arts enterprise run by Antonio Inoki while he's in a dark room with nothing but his scouter for a light source.
But seriously, if Brock "worst IWGP champion since Tadao Yasuda" Lesnar can be the armored titan, if TNA Impact footage is good enough for the anime version of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, something good IGF brought to Japan be referenced in Anime?
Buldogue's lawyerIt looks like you messed up the Dragon Ball thread and the Pro wrestling thread.
My various fanfics.

Or Goku and Piccolo are just bros. Driving cars together and stuff.
Meanwhile Vegeta figures he could solo the whole event and gives no flying fries who else joins.