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Piando 18's Glomp OF DOOM Since: Jun, 2015
18's Glomp OF DOOM
#30451: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:18:26 PM

Gotenks headbutting Tagoma in the groin. That is all.

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#30452: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:19:03 PM

Because it was fun, that's why.

I find myself liking it better then movie, too.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#30453: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:26:34 PM

How?

All that happened was Ginyu showed up in a really contrived way, Gotenks showed up (in an albeit funny way) and instantly defused, and then the rest of the episode was the actual episode really undeservedly giving Gohan as much of a "Reason You Suck" Speech as it could without actually having a character give him one.

Like, the show itself was pretty much like "Ha, take that Gohan! You wanted to follow your dreams and become a successful businessman? Well, look, your mentor had to die because you suck so much!"

I know I'm really hung up on this, but I honestly have no idea why anyone would really like this episode other than because.

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#30454: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:29:27 PM

That reminds me, what exactly does Gohan do? "Being a scholar" just seems like a really vague description that can mean a variety of things.

edited 6th Dec '15 6:31:29 PM by LSBK

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#30455: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:30:07 PM

It's never really explained, because the show doesn't care enough about that to tell us.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#30456: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:32:03 PM

He's a nerd. He does nerd stuff.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#30457: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:36:09 PM

Well, the lore of Online says he studies the scientific properties of Ki and other series concepts like Katchin.

He publishes a book on his findings, Groundbreaking Science, in Age 804 — 25 years after the current point in Super.

edited 6th Dec '15 6:42:15 PM by BaffleBlend

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#30458: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:46:57 PM

Oh, we should also mention that in the Online timeline, Gohan's research revealed Ki to the world and got people to accept it, IIRC.

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#30459: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:10:08 PM

The only thing I didn't like about this episode was Gotenks not really doing anything besides headbutting some dudes balls.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#30460: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:38:55 PM

Gohan took care of Taginyu fine once he went Super Saiyan. Freeza brutalizing Gohan wasn't the series going 'Gohan sucks because he followed his dreams and doesn't fight anymore'. Freeza brutalizing Gohan was the series going 'remember how evil Freeza was? Well now he's crazy too! Look at how scary he is!'.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30461: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:43:29 PM

That implies Frieza was sane before.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30462: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:44:05 PM

Ok. I actually watched it, and I kinda did like it.

I feel sorry for Tagoma getting his nuts smashed in and all, but that was kinda funny.

I'm not happy that Gotenks fell out of the fight so quickly (C'mon! He should be fast enough to get there before his time is up, that's bullshit!) but Frieza recognizing Trunks was something I was curious about.

As for Gohan, once he actually got a little serious, he did do better, but that just lead to Frieza stomping him (which we knew could happen).

Now, I'm not happy about it, but I'm starting to wonder if there is an arc for Gohan in store as well. He himself notes his inability to bring out his full power, and wonders if it's due to his lack of training, and seeing Piccolo die in front of him again (though they obviously still have some Senzu beans) may remind him of why he wanted to be strong back then: so that he didn't have to sit aside and watch his friends get murdered.

Barring his exclusion from the tournament in the Manga (and maybe we're in for a surprise on that one), I wonder if maybe Gohan is gonna start making some time to get himself back in shape. After all, there's always a new threat waiting in the wings.

But I'm probably being too generous.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#30463: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:44:26 PM

[up][up]More sane than he is now, anyways.

edited 6th Dec '15 7:45:18 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#30464: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:45:01 PM

Hey if I was stuck in some sweet sugar Ironic Hell I'd probably end up more unhinged than I already was too.

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#30465: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:50:18 PM

I like that what set Freeza off into torturing Gohan was Gohan showing mercy.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30466: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:02:33 PM

[up][up][up]

Yeah, like maybe Gohan will have to defend the earth while Goku is at the tournament. Assuming he's not part of the crowd at the tournament.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#30467: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:14:37 PM

So... what was the point of the PTO?

What did Freezy Pop have to gain from selling planets that he couldn't just take by force?

It's like the exact opposite of Cut Lex Luthor a Check, why should he run a business when he's the most powerful active fighter in the universe and has no qualms about just killing or taking things?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#30468: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:20:21 PM

To be fair, Freeza was so bloody nuts that he thought rushing to Earth with the Time Patroller after training for what amounts to five minutes was a good idea. Yes, I know it was Xenoverse.

Anyway, I still say that "BEAT IT! And take your planet with you! KAMEHAMEHA!" is the bestest thing ever.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#30469: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:54:53 PM

[up][up]Because Freeza's ego is that big. It's not enough that he can simply wipe out everyone with easy, he also needs to subjugate the universe so that he can lord his power over everyone.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#30470: Dec 6th 2015 at 9:12:19 PM

But then why sell planets? Wouldn't keeping them all for himself go further toward presenting himself as an indomitable ruler of the universe?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#30471: Dec 6th 2015 at 9:35:08 PM

If there's one thing I've learned it's that Freeza is really lazy.

He developed forms so he could use less energy. And even in his weakest form he decided to use the space version of a wheelchair.

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#30472: Dec 6th 2015 at 9:36:33 PM

King Kold, I have no clue, but Freeza was making an honest living doing something that he would gladly do for free. Kill things. He turned murder into a profitable industry, he probably sees the PTO as an interactive work of art.

And I'm not sure I'd call Freezer insane. Selfish, egotistical, murderous, callous, petty, vindictive, sadistic, immoral, irrational, shortsighted, underachieving, bigoted, but not crazy. Unlike, Piccolo, who was spawned by pure evil, Buu absorbed generations worth of evil or Cell, who seemed to have been knocked loopy from his near death experience, Freeza seemed to have narcissistic personality disorder at most, and even then he willingly took orders from his father, leading me to conclude he had no psychological issues. He was just a prick. Hell, he tells Goku himself he understands the concept of "innocent" just fine, and knows it's bad to kill them. He just likes it too much to care. Outside of Bibidi and Babadi, the only characters that come close to the inexcusable immorality that is Freeza either work for Freeza or are part of Freeza's family.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#30473: Dec 6th 2015 at 10:31:23 PM

He's a little crazy nowadays. See: him projecting Goku onto Gohan while torturing him.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#30474: Dec 7th 2015 at 5:06:45 AM

Basically, Freeza is the single most evil motherf*cker in the entire series. If this were written by Brian Clevinger, he'd be Black Mage.

edited 7th Dec '15 5:07:00 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#30475: Dec 7th 2015 at 5:57:47 AM

You know what's weird? It's been a bit over a year but Gohan power decrees seems much more drastic than during the seven year period between Cell and Buu. I mean, he has problems keeping Super Sayian state up, not even Namek Goku had any problems with that!


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